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The State needs to place a bounty of $10 for each dead Axis Deer a Big Island hunter can deliver to the DLNR Office. This will make short order of the problem and work as a mini stimulus for the resident hunters of the island. I bet the Axis deer are wiped out in less than 2 years time. A mere $25,000 would clear 2500 of them off the Island, if there are even that many here to begin with. If our elected representitives can't come up with $25,000 for this project then they don't have any real interest in solving this issue. Forget taking pictures or reporting places and times of sightings, set the dogs loose and let the hunters do what they do best. Let DLNR proctor the program and dish out the bounty like they do a fishing or hunting license and then report back any progress in a annual head count report. Simple
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Rene, this has been looked at in the past by the DLNR, problem is that bounties seem to INCREASE populations of target species here....I posted this in the last thread on axis deer:
As to offering bounties....The Hawaii DLNR Tech. Bul 07-01 Review Ungulate Control Methods & Approach states:
"Bounties have been found to be generally ineffective in animal management, and have actually resulted in increases in the target species in many cases"
Link to tech bulletin:
http://www.state.hi.us/dlnr/dofaw/pubs/U...202007.pdf
As to offering $10.... for many of the remote areas, including gulches and upland mountain areas, the bounty would not even come close to the extraction costs.... most of these areas have other desirable game that are not eradicated, mainly because it is too difficult to get in there.... if it was easy, there would not be the invasive ungulate problems we have...
Jack Jeffries is a great resource to contact on how hard it is to eradicate ungulates from the upland areas of Hakalau, the very same type of areas that deer probably will find most desirable...
Older Axis deer thread link:
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13275
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quote:
Originally posted by Carey
Rene, this has been looked at in the past by the DLNR, problem is that bounties seem to INCREASE populations of target species here....I posted this in the last thread on axis deer:
As to offering bounties....The Hawaii DLNR Tech. Bul 07-01 Review Ungulate Control Methods & Approach states:
"Bounties have been found to be generally ineffective in animal management, and have actually resulted in increases in the target species in many cases"
Link to tech bulletin:
http://www.state.hi.us/dlnr/dofaw/pubs/U...202007.pdf
As to offering $10.... for many of the remote areas, including gulches and upland mountain areas, the bounty would not even come close to the extraction costs.... most of these areas have other desirable game that are not eradicated, mainly because it is too difficult to get in there.... if it was easy, there would not be the invasive ungulate problems we have...
Jack Jeffries is a great resource to contact on how hard it is to eradicate ungulates from the upland areas of Hakalau, the very same type of areas that deer probably will find most desirable...
Older Axis deer thread link:
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13275
EXACTLY.
A helicopter ride over the remote inaccessible (to humans, not deer) areas on the Big Island would show you just how impossible it would be to eradicate a deer population no matter what the incentive.
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Heck, Jack has tales of trying to eradicate feral CATTLE from Hakalau with helicopters, did not find/capture &/or eradicate many, very expensive & could not recover the meat at any feasible return....the damage the ungulates do to the forests here are amazing...These ungulates are very wary & very very feral...
Believe it or not, Hawaii had one of the first Watershed Management action plans. Over 100 years ago the stray/feral ungulate damage done to the watershed was recognized & dealt with, but that was with the power of $$$ugar....& their main concern was keeping the watershed for irrigation.
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Sounds like its time to release several packs of sterilized wolves. They would hunt the other mammals without mercy. They will even climb treacherous mountaintops to get the goats. And since they are sterilized, not a problem of introduction after their lifespan. Of course, they may not differentiate between domesticated and wild animals- that would be a problem.
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i dont think so on wolves, from one Alaskan to another we already know what kind of danger they can be to the environment. In Hawaii after the deer are gone next will come everyone's dogs, cats etc....but then again it could size down the mongoose population! i guess you could put a GPS collar on them and then shoot then from the air after their duty is over. peace
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We already have packs of dogs.Why would we need wolves ??
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13391
I knew Hawaii was missing something. Wolves! Yeah, that's the ticket. Next up, bears!
Firmly not in camp of making Hawaii more like Alaska.
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well Hawaii could use some more natural "money making" resources, IMHO Id be a little more open. peace
