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[condoman]

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[Rob Tucker]

You might feel much, much safer in Los Angeles.

[missydog1]

condoman, I'm sure you mean well, and maybe you just thought of this, but it's an old well worn topic, not just here on Punaweb. So no need for all caps like it is suddenly a huge announcement.

btw, every time the community association in my area has a meeting, disaster readiness is on the agenda. People who have resources, points of contact, ham radio operators, workshops on sustainable agriculture.

Civil defense urges everyone to stock up ... maybe check their site.
People here have been through shipping strikes. It's not a hypothetical.

I'm not scared of 2012.
Did you know that as the first millenium after Christ came to an end, that just as many or more thought the world would end?
Here is a list of dates that people think the world will end fairly soon, doomsday dates. The list was compiled in 1998, so several of the prophecies have already come to nought.

ed because I forgot to paste int he link.
http://homehealth.tripod.com/index-30.html

"in the troubled years that came before the Deluge" ~ Jackson browne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlLOVIIS4qs&feature=related
(a very nice version of one of my favorite apocalyptic songs)

[punafish]

A "disaster-survival model" worth studying was put on display during Japan's recent tsunami in a tiny village called Mizuhama. Through community, preparation and disaster drills, they managed to evacuate 381 people (from a population of 390, many of whom are elderly) within 15-20 minutes, right before that monster tsunami flattened their town. There was nothing high-tech about it, just folks in the community cooperating, sharing, and helping each other. The model would of course need to be modified to fit our culture here, and would likely work better in smaller groups. But the spirit of what they accomplished is an inspiring example for all of us emulate

http://japaninsight.wordpress.com/2011/0...a-tsunami/

[Obie]

What if the sun burns out tomorrow ?

[pslamont]

Condoman, you must be very new to Punaweb. We are a very well prepared, aware, thoughtful population. Many if not most of us have supplies to last us not only through a strike but any natural disaster. Many of us are (or are nearly) sustainable on our land. Take a deep breath and if this truly brings you great anxiety, Rob may be right... this remote place might not be the best place for you.

I want to be the kind of woman that, when my feet
hit the floor each morning, the devil says

"Oh Crap, She's up!"

[condoman]

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Originally posted by condoman

I spent time thinking of how these islands would be a catastrophe of panic and mayhem if a bonafide disaster came upon us. I remember tsunami warning times we had of folks flocking to gas stations and running to stores to hoard food and supplies. Can you imagine if Matson and other transporters could not deliver goods to island? Ever watch MAD MAX or Road Warriors? Trust me human behaviour even moreso now with supposed 2012 and economy situation will turn folks into something real scary! HECK I dont even have a weapon nevertheless an umbrella!Watch that Twilight zone movie or was it outer limits. You know the one where this guy had a bomb shelter and there was a possible bomb threat and even his neighbors turned on him and his family to try to get in his shelter. The guy thought ahead and his friends SO CALLED and neighbors were willing to shoot him to get into shelter. The day is coming! Wether its a meteor or sun spots or natural causes but it will not be pretty. Is anyone really prepared? GREAT TOPIC!

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LOL Im not concerned about dates. such as 2012 etc. It is the state of mind with people these days.A real bad disaster will open your eyes alot more. NO ROB I will not go to Los Angeles if you paid me too lol! Im not even afraid of volcanic possibilities, it is the people not the disaster that should concern everyone. No ALOHA my friends when chips are down especially on an isolated land mass in middle of Pacific ocean. Ok made my point. Let us just hope we do not have any such disasters!

[missydog1]

About 35 years ago, my dad floated this ultimate disaster theory by me that seems to be getting some play now for 2012.

My dad worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory with a lot of eminent scientists (he himself was in applied mathematics/computer programming). He told me the scientists had identified a star that was giving signs of going supernova, and that is was so close to us that it would annihilate the earth when it happened.

But because the supernova wave would travel at the speed of light, we would not see it coming. The first sign would be all she wrote. And because the star was light years away, it might already have gone supernova, but we wouldn't know it.

He also said the scientists were not going to mention their concerns to the public, as it would be pointless.

I looked to see if I could find this on the net, and I did find a thing about Betelgeuse going supernova ... as a what if it happened in 2012? Betelgeuse is 600 light years away, so it would have happened centuries ago.

But now I recall that is not the star my dad told me about; that one is much much closer to us.

But by god I'm going to have a whole lot of beans and rice and toilet paper stocked up the day the supernova hits the Big Island, because I'll need it ... well, no, I really won't. []

"And I'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody, outside of a small circle of friends ~ Phil Ochs

[PaulW]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shelter...ight_Zone)

It is a little strange how people make a mad rush to buy up all available everything every time there is even a hint of a possible problem.
Good for the economy though.

If the boats stopped because of a storm or tsunami it wouldn't be that big a deal. We won't freeze to death and there's plenty of food - and water!

[Obie]

Lived on Oahu in 1973-1976 ,this is all true !!

"During the oil embargo situation of the mid-1970’s, Hawaii went into widespread pandemonium. Since all of Hawaii’s sources are being shipped from 6,000 miles away to the state, the shipping “interruption” caused a huge disturbance to Hawaii’s people. Lines in the local gas stations were ridiculously long, and were known to become violent from impatience and misunderstanding. The store shelves were lacking in many areas, but the paper product department was getting the worst end of the deal. The toilet paper had to be rationed out once a new shipment came in, one roll per person only. The end result: store managers sent in desperate orders for bulk supplies, giving every consumer a chance to buy his or her share of necessary toilet paper in volume. Then, the remaining rolls were available to the less “frantic”.

The rumors were the worst.There were news reports that Japanese tourists were making leis out of rolls of TP to smuggle them out of the state.