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HPP/26th 5 Men Burglary 72 yr old lady @ 11 a.m
#11
It was a pleasure to see so many at the Neighborhood Watch (NW) meeting this morning. Participation in Neighborhood Watch is empowering and your participation has made a difference and can do so in the future. I hope all members of the Hawaiian Paradise Park Owner's Association will support the goals of HPP's Neighborhood Watch, and of PAKA (a neighborhood watch for Kaloli Point). With an active, organized and energized Neighborhood Watch, we can reduce the incidence of crime in HPP and create a safer environment for us all. Thanks once again to Jerry Carr for his leadership, to all of you who participated in Neighborhood Watch, and to Peter Houle for agreeing to take the reins going forward.

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#12
It's unfortunate but I have to say that were I living in HPP right now, I would be packing a gun while on my own property. I plan to be living there soon on one of my lots and the idea that I would need carry on my own property sucks. The PD really needs to place a priority on this. I would expect that they are doing real good crime scene investigations appropriate to the seriousness of the crimes.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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#13
I'm wondering if HPP is actually a good location for a HPD satellite/substation. Just makes sense IMHO.

Carrie

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Carrie Rojo

"Even the smallest person can change the course of the future..." Galadriel LOTR
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#14
Well, there is an HPD substation in Kea'au, so I doubt they would have one in HPP too; that one should cover HPP.

I imagine the perps had figured out there was an older woman alone on the property, vulnerable target. I doubt they would have pulled that on oink.
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#15
It made me think of this Huffington Post article, except it was a very young widow and baby: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/mom-kills-intruder_n_1183336.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3&pLid=124743&ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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#16
For whatever it is worth, I have seen an increasing number of HPD with young families who now live here in the HPP. Every single one has a stout new fence, locked gates, motion detector lights, and big dogs who look like good family pets that would also tear you up if you came onto the property uninvited and unaccompanied by the owner, or threatened someone in their family.

I have a psycho/loco dog we got from a rescue operation who weren't honest with us about her history with aggressive behavior towards local males in the peak testosterone pumping phase (she was much abused and neglected by one for the first 18 months of her life). She is calm and loving with us, fine with most women, and adores our older male relatives and friends, but the FEDEX guy gingerly pokes packages over the gate to us when we get a delivery. If anyone else comes over we contain her for everyone's sanity.

It is a huge hassle owning an insanely hyper protective dog, but every time I think about parting with her, something like these recent attacks happen and I am so glad we have her. My husband can safely leave me alone on our property overnight and I know the only way anyone is coming through that gate without my permission is if they come in guns blazing, in which case I'm using the time the dogs buy me to call 911 and hide under the bed. We also have quite a few houses right around us with good lines of sight between them which helps. The long drive to the hidden house is a lot less attractive to me, I would rather my neighbors and I can see each other's houses.

When we see sketchy people cruising the neighborhood for no obvious reason, they tend to see our fence and 3 ballistic dogs, one of whom is biting the fence and frothing at the mouth, and they just cruise on. Thieves tend to go for easy soft targets, and I think fences, gates, and dogs make for much harder targets. Bad guys and reformed ex bad guys have been surveyed, and they said the noise and unpredictable natures of dogs deter them from those properties. I had a friend who lived in a bad neighborhood in NYC and she wired her door to play a tape of a barking doberman when someone knocked or rattled the door, she was one of the few people in her building who was never burglarized or robbed in 8 years.

Strung out ice heads are a whole other kettle of fish, because they are not using logic or thinking rationally. Up against them oink is probably much safer than most.

Carol
Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
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#17
I just sent the following letter to the Tribune-Herald:

<<I know you guys are short-staffed over there, but I was shocked just now to discover via punaweb that there were TWO violent burglaries that took place in HPP -- both on THANKSGIVING no less -- and neither was mentioned in the paper. (If it was and I missed it, I do apologize.) You have 11,000 people down here in HPP w/very little mention of safety issues. These crimes happened SIX WEEKS AGO and as far as I know they have not been solved.

http://www.hawaii247.com/2012/01/03/poli...mans-home/

http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2011/1...-invasion/

One of the stories has details as to clothes, etc. of the culprits. Your readers need to know where this kind of stuff occurs so that we can be safe. Please help us here in HPP by covering more crime. I see more sports coverage than crime/police coverage. The arrests made listing does us no good. We need to know WHERE AND WHEN crimes took place.

This is where I found out about the incidents: http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13782

Note the police gave a # for the public to call with information. How would the public know to do this if they were relying on the Hawaii Tribune-Herald?

Thanks for listening.>>

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If you'd like to put a similar bug in their ear, you can do so via http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/cont...-form.html

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#18
The Tribune Herald did have this article on January 4 (I think from the same press release that the internet sources also use...)
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/sect...bed.html-0

It seems from the reports I have read, that the delay was not in the news reporting, but in the police press release.... I did not hear anything about this, even on the coconut wireless, until the press release...
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#19
I don't even live there full time and I have a solar-powered, cellular-transmitting, night-vision-capable, motion-activated camera to keep an eye on things. They aren't going to add more cops, but citizens can add their own cameras to help catch these criminals. The prices have dropped to the point where anybody can get wireless surveilance for just a couple hundred bucks.
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#20
Yeah, sorry - I did hear after I sent the note to the paper that one of the incidents was mentioned. Clearly the police put out two press releases bc one site reported on one, the other reported on the other, w/ the HT reporting only on one as well. My husband was a newspaper editor for 30 years. He says whoever has the police beat is supposed to be on those guys all the time, every day, not rely on press releases. Don't get me going on the daily misspellings and repeated stories. Take the guy off the history thing and put him on the police beat. Sorry, I think it's the local newspapers responsibility to the public to REPORT. I think there might be only two people down at that paper. They have more guys on sports than crime.

terracore, any recommendations on cameras?
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