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Bill takes aim at medical pot
#31
Mary, Yes and your example, presented for comparison, is an apt one.

Historian Noam Chomsky, (a name familiar to most people I seem to meet here), chronicles and analyses this phenomenon better than anyone in his famous book, "Manufacturing Consent), imho.

Even though Spain is not in Puna, it's good to see what other countries are doing right, for purposes of comparison and as a possible path for action here.

You're absolutely right to point out that in free countries, the people have the power to enact significant policy changes. That is the very definition of what it means to live in a free country. Under Totalitarian regimes, they don't. Although, as you point out, it's normal for people living under tyranny to attempt to free themselves.

Even though knowing that cannabis has the ability to halt multiple sclerosis isn't something specific to Puna, this type of information must be part of the discussion, if for no other reason than that it helps to dispel the falsehoods that are promoted by too many politicians here and in the State Legislature.





Lee Eisenstein
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#32
You have to admit though, that there are plenty of people who really believe in all the Reefer Madness type falsehoods concerning cannabis so it's not just government tyranny. They really do think society benefits from prohibition and are not just trying to oppress people. The one point they like to bring up is the negative effect it has on kids and young adults.
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#33
40% of americans believe in creationism as well -

critical thinking - and teaching same in the schools and requiring the use of same in day to day dealings - the only real hope our society has - and we'd better get on the ball before we are all employed by off shore companies like good little drones, or in jail for opposing the majority think and speak - imho

chrysler is now fiat, much of our food and house hold needs distributed by unilever, light bulbs from phillips, "good" cars come from japan etc,etc....... and much more to come imho

Speaks of a long ways to go before we can resolve the pharma mess - and their hold on the government through their corporate legion of lobby folks........

meanwhile the majority of the us population "buys" or assimilates mass media spoon fed opinion and belief systems fostered by the likes of murdoch viacom et al. (also off shore based institutions btw.) The previous administration selling rupert u.s. citizen "papers" so he could own us media assets (including the wall street journal)as well as other rags and networks(fox) that disseminate unproven right leaning philosophy/propaganda - grin)
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#34
I think that nationally, marijuana prohibition supporters are the minority now. Locally, they certainly represent a minority opinion.

Now it the time for local folks to contact the politicians and respectfully demand that the medical cannabis program be liberalized and that Hawaii should move towards an overall drug policy based on appropriate regulation and appropriate control of all recreational drugs, currently given by the politicians, to gangs, cartels, children and small, semi-domesticated farm animals.


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#35
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Originally posted by LeeE

I think that nationally, marijuana prohibition supporters are the minority now. Locally, they certainly represent a minority opinion.


That may be true for Puna but there's an awful lot of Republicans in the rest of the state and country. They largely support prohibition. I see change at the Federal level hard to come by because of this. Even Obama has to kowtow to them.
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#36
I would be a conservative in the view of many PW members but I'm certainly not far right. I would even support legalization of marijuana and not just medical. However, if you're a follower of Noam Chomsky, we live in different universes.

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#37
thats the problem oink, you do not live in a separate universe, your mind does. conservatives operate from a perspective of fear, lets keep everything static even if its not working right, progressives operate from a perspective of wanting to change and move forward, they aren't afraid of the future or change like conservatives are, there in lies the two universes, one you live in and one i live in. its too bad though that we progressives have to take you conservatives by your ears to drag you into the new century kicking and screaming. my only consolation is that every generation of younger people is getting smarter and smarter and more enlightened and less fearful of the future. i have great hope for the world, because i see these positive changes in our young people.
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#38
I'm all good with actual normal progressives. I don't think Noam Chomsky and followers qualify for that term. Anarchist or at best radical socialist would be more appropriate. I personally don't want to destroy the U.S.

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#39
destroy U.S? and what do you call the FED? the group that owns it is a f...king dictatorship chocking out our country. Noam is a harmless ***** cat philosopher in comparison, you think you live in a democracy? i can only laugh.
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#40
LOL the word "p*ssy" is filtered here.
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