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A school in HPP has many obvious advantages, including getting traffic off highway 130.
Most of the discussion I have heard has been about an elementary school, but that is just discussion.
There is already County water to the fire station on Paradise Dr.
Also, there is another option for getting water into HPP: drill a well.
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The People of HPP are not against progress or improvements just against getting screwed by the county again
there are 6 20 acre lots specifically set-aside schools or parks there is a private school on one of them
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Again, Seeb, you describe the situation well.
It is likely that would be because you live in HPP and are informed, rather than being someone who knows nothing about the community.
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overpopulation affects everyone and all in negative ways...
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“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” " Krishnamurti "
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Originally posted by Seeb
The People of HPP are not against progress or improvements just against getting screwed by the county again
there are 6 20 acre lots specifically set-aside schools or parks there is a private school on one of them
And Malama Waldorf School does not even use 1/2 the 20 acres it has leased. Could a public school share space with Malama?
Is the demographics available to support a public elementary school there, or would an assisted living center be more well used [  ] ?
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Originally posted by Kapohocat
And Malama Waldorf School does not even use 1/2 the 20 acres it has leased. Could a public school share space with Malama?
Is the demographics available to support a public elementary school there, or would an assisted living center be more well used [] ?
I haven't (yet) dug down into the census data re age in HPP. However, every school day we see buses from several schools coming into HPP.
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State DOE is not likely to spend any money building new schools till all the existing ones are way over capacity
Also the lots the association owns have deed restrictions. But there are another 6. 20acre lots that the original develoer owns, I saw 1 of them on mls awhile back
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Originally posted by Kapohocat
Is the demographics available to support a public elementary school there, or would an assisted living center be more well used [] ?
Age of population, HPP and Hawaii, from 2010census:
.................................................HPP State of Hawaii
Persons under 5 years, percent, 2010 7.6% 6.4%
Persons under 18 years, percent, 2010 27.4% 22.3%
Persons 65 years and over, percent, 2010 10.5% 14.3%
Age of population, County of Hawaii
Persons under 5 years, percent, 2010 6.4%
Persons under 18 years, percent, 2010 22.8%
Persons 65 years and over, percent, 2010 14.5%
So, HPP has a higher percentage of children and a lower percentage of elders than the county and the state as a whole. Looks like a school is needed.
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Originally posted by james weatherford
quote:
Originally posted by Kapohocat
Is the demographics available to support a public elementary school there, or would an assisted living center be more well used [] ?
Age of population, HPP and Hawaii, from 2010census:
.................................................HPP State of Hawaii
Persons under 5 years, percent, 2010 7.6% 6.4%
Persons under 18 years, percent, 2010 27.4% 22.3%
Persons 65 years and over, percent, 2010 10.5% 14.3%
Age of population, County of Hawaii
Persons under 5 years, percent, 2010 6.4%
Persons under 18 years, percent, 2010 22.8%
Persons 65 years and over, percent, 2010 14.5%
So, HPP has a higher percentage of children and a lower percentage of elders than the county and the state as a whole. Looks like a school is needed.
Well, James, you're basing your conclusion on only one half of the equation. What are the existing facilities serving the two populations and what is their potential for accommodating future growth? And what are the trends? I'd make a totally "top of the head" guess that the percentage of seniors is going to rise faster than the percentage of youngsters, as all us baby boomers aging in place are joined by our mainland colleagues who want to retire in their perceived paradise. I don't have an opinion (uninformed or otherwise) about what is needed most, but if a decision is going to be made, all aspects have to figure in the mix.
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Fair point, KeaauRich, re the existing schools' capacity and the trend.
Even if the elders increase in proportion, the total number of school- age children can be expected to grow if the overall trend of >50% population growth per decade continues in HPP.
One interesting change taking place is the demand for enrollment in Charter schools in Puna -- where there is a lottery and a waiting list.
So, the Pahoa and Keaau DOE 'complexes' are not the only places to consider.
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