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25 mph on Ainaloa
#1
Once again, - yes, be careful about speed on ainaloa blvd. They are actually ticketing people doing between 25-35.

Two people I know and myself got tix the last two days. The cop told me its because of the burglaries in HPP and Ainaloa. Ok, even to me that makes no sense to stop old ladies (yes one of my friends is 74 who got a tix yesterday). I guess I was just the unlucky one who actually did not turn left before Nine Rd in the acres.

So as I made my return trip down Ainaloa .... not one car out of 27 cars I counted were doing under 35 - i was doing exactly 25 and 2 cars passed me on the left.... over the line.

I dont agree with this speed limit trap but I will pay my debt to society... [Big Grin]

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#2
How is it a "trap" if the speed limit is posted? Slow down, it's Hawaii.
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#3
speed limit revenue producer then. Thanks for the warning KapohoCat.

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#4
The police have been ticketing in HPP, too. The philosophy behind traffic enforcement as a remedy for burglary is that it gives the message that the police are present and monitoring an area. That's added police presence, and it's a good thing. The cops don't have any local monetary incentive for writing tickets because all the traffic fine money goes to the State of Hawaii. Having said all that, the 25 mph limit on Ainaloa Blvd seems about 10 mph lower than comparable roads in this area.
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#5
You would be shocked at the number of crimes solved by the humble traffic stop. The cops get to see who is out and about in the area. They get the opportunity to have sometimes revealing conversations with the occupants. They get a look into the cars where they can spot burglar tools and or stolen loot. They frequently get to make arrests for criminal traffic violations, commonly resulting in the towing and inventory of the vehicle's contents, often resulting in the discovery of evidence of all types.

By stopping everyone for even minor violations they can avoid claims of profiling, although they may primarily have a specific group in mind. However, IMHO more can usually be accomplished with warning tickets as they are generally quicker to write allowing the interaction with the occupants of more vehicles and actually increasing the flow of information. A "friendly" warning ticket is much less adversarial and increases the likelihood of the noncriminal vehicle occupant sharing knowledge of the area they might not otherwise share while being hammered with a real money/points ticket.

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#6
HPP has some conditions that make speeding really dangerous. The "humps" on, say, Kaloli. You pull up to the stop sign on 23rd, for instance, look both ways, and make a left towards the water. All too many times I've been almost broad sided by speeders heading towards the highway. You can't see them when they are in the valley before the hump. If they were doing 35 (the speed limit on the four main paved roads), it wouldn't be a problem. If they are doing 45-50 (as all too many do), you could get plowed into by a pretty high speed car.
The cross roads are posted 25 mph, but I usually go slower as this is where you might find little kids playing, and walkers, joggers, etc.

Jon in Keaau/HPP
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#7
I have never figured out how you can have a 35 mile an hour speed limit on Kilauea in Hilo, but only 25 on major routes into our subdivisions. Makes no sense to me. Try writing the court about your fine, Kapohocat. Sometimes they will knock off some of the fine. Tell them about your good driving record, and bring up any extenuating circumstances. The cops often suggest that themselves. I know one $50 reduction in fine, and one fine dropped altogether. It's worth a try.

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#8
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Originally posted by Radiopeg

I have never figured out how you can have a 35 mile an hour speed limit on Kilauea in Hilo, but only 25 on major routes into our subdivisions. Makes no sense to me. Try writing the court about your fine, Kapohocat. Sometimes they will knock off some of the fine. Tell them about your good driving record, and bring up any extenuating circumstances. The cops often suggest that themselves. I know one $50 reduction in fine, and one fine dropped altogether. It's worth a try.

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I thought I would do that, and also send the fine $$$ along with it. I was guilty even if in MHO it was unfair. My goal was to warm others not to speed. [:p][8][:p]
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#9
See being an responsible person we have to co-operate with police and authority, and they are just doing their duty.

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Originally posted by Kapohocat
My goal was to warm others not to speed. [:p][8][:p]


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