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25 mph on Ainaloa
#21
The best way to avoid a speeding ticket is to always have someone in front of you.

If your on a road doing the speed limit because no one is in front or behind you ... good for you.

If someone is tail gating you (don't be a dork and continue to do the speed limit or for gods sake UNDER the speed limit). Turn on your blinker and pull over you don't even need to stop just slow way down till the person *thanks you* and passes. Now you have a rabbit in front of you that you can safely follow! Smile

Congratulations --- You've just avoided being flipped off, yelled at and a ticket! Just leave lot's of space between you and your rabbit so you know when your rabbit see's a cop they will hit the brakes and you'll have enough time to slow down before the cop see's you.

Drive safely!
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#22
afwjam ... You are truly a troll in every sense of the word ... Half a million miles is BFD NOTHING and I hope you end up behind me so you can kiss my 'bumper' as I safely do the speed limit with aloha.

Happy I'm slowing you down,
pog
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#23
Did you ever notice that so many incompetent people are too incompetent to know they’re incompetent?

That includes a lot of drivers who are convinced that THEY know when it is safe to speed and that anyone who does not recognize this competency is incompetent?

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#24
LOL...so according to pahoated the problem is:
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Too many mainlanders bring their mainland driving habits and expectations to the islands. It is really starting to become noticeable with all the recognizable rental jeeps. Always driving way too fast, too distracted and frankly, like mainland a-holes.
And according to afwjam it's:
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mainland transplant A-holes all high on their concept of Aloha driving well under the speed limit usually in some POS predictable fuel efficient SUV
Nice to see there's consensus that it's someone else's fault!

And yeah, I agree with Carol and Greg - occasionally I'll be stuck being a tourist in a rental car going 5 mph below the speed limit, but 99% of the time it's aggro guys in lifted trucks or dropped Civics, with overbright headlights and overtinted windows, passing every car they can with an inch to spare.
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#25
. . .and, if you are behind a rental car going too slow, realize that tourists who come here are often confused and don't know local traffic customs. Instead of complaining about them, realize that without them we are all screwed.
Afwjam - the speed limit is the law. I drivethe speed limit. IF you don't like being behind me, tough. I'm obeying the law and have never had an accident, my fault or not, and have a spotless driving record. And, i've driven many, many, many times the miles you have.
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#26
Have fun getting run over by an "agro" whatever that is as you do 40 mph down the highway. Nowhere did I promote reckless speeding as the answer. As I said 90% of the traffic does the right speed, you can look into traffic studies and how they decide the speed limit, its not what they decide, but rather what the road and traffic dictate.(unless it political.) 25 on Ainaloa is a speed trap, I never drive it, I doubt Cat was being reckless driving 35. Its amazing how it is considered responsible to be a bad driver in this country. Every other country I have driven in, encouraged good driving not bad. Maybe thats why America watches Nascar while the rest of the world watches F1 and MotoGP. Drive a little slower , day dream and hesitate a little more. Please.

“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
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#27
See what you've done Kapohocat? Battle lines are being drawn because you had the audacity to warn us about a speed trap on Ainaloa (which doesn't even exist if you believe PaulW). Now you've gone and polarized not only the speedsters and the slowpokes, but also the locals and mainland a-holes. We are now thoroughly divided and at war! All because of your make-believe speed trap.

The creativity of humans in finding things to fight over never ceases to amaze me.

Indeed, no good deed goes unpunished. I for one appreciate the heads-up.
Tim

A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions--Confucius
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#28
Agro is an adjective, not a noun.

Single vehicle crashes on curvy roads mean the driver was driving too fast for the road conditions. Multiple crashes on curvy roads means the driver is a very slow learner with expensive insurance.

Drivers who are driving the speed limit are under no obligation to pull over because someone behind you wants to drive at excessive speeds. In many places in Puna there is virtually no place where you can safely pull over (Ainaloa), and in many others it would be almost impossible to get back onto the road (Highway 130 during the morning or afternoon commute.) People who want to go faster than the speed limit and road conditions need to go play Nascar driver and leave actual transportation corridors to people who care about the safety of themselves and others.

Driving fast doesn't make someone a safer driver, driving slow can mean that the driver is being realistic about the driving conditions, including things like density of traffic, visibility, weather, and roadway conditions.

Cars are not time machines, no matter how much some people want to pretend they are.

There was a bad, fatal wreck on Saddle Road this weekend, caused by someone trying to pass a car because they thought the driver was "going too slow" and tried to pass when and where that was a really bad idea. Now a twenty year old is dead, and others are injured, plus the second driver's car was totaled. The passing driver probably thought they were the best driver on the road too.


Carol
Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
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#29
Its not a time machine until you get behind some lady doing 37 mph on the highway and then it becomes a time machine for the whole road, moving the future back by 10-15 minutes.

“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
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#30
If and when I am ticketed for excessive speed, I will be sure to remember to assert the affirmative defense that since I watch A LOT of F1 and MotoGP Racing (not to mention that I play A LOT of Grand Theft Auto on my computer Smile, I am not to be held responsible by the court for my not obeying the speed limit. Yep. That works for me! Facepalm anyone?
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