HPP Special Assessment Proposal

[Seeb]

so with the 10% a year plus the 500, at year 5 it's $926 to live on the same dirt road i got now

[rainshadow]

Hey all, finally getting online to read through the threads. Great stuff. I was at the Wednesday meeting. As I suspected, the attendees who talked had widely varied, and all valid (with one conspiracy theorist exception) ideas on this issue. I was impressed at the level of thought some took to try to problem solve; I still am as I read through this. Thanks, everyone, for taking such focused time and sharing. I for one really really appreciate it. With minds like these...

So, I must say that my take falls across a few of the expressed opinions.
- I think Jerry's original point of solid outside legal assessment is the best first step.
- I like Steve's points on mitigation. Others have added vegetation to that mitigation mix, which I also support.

Some have suggested water trucks. Perhaps feasible. While maybe not realistic, it occurs to me that any complaint that happens... could be logged, the owner asked if they'd like their street watered, and the cost of that added to their annual fees, or split with HPPOA, or whatever... but the point being acknowledgement and tracking of a complaint, an attempt to address, and an associated cost.

For myself, and as for a long term plan and the Code per se... I don't know enough about it to weigh in, honestly. Of course I certainly don't want to pay what they are proposing. However, even more than that, I don't want to be the only 'dusty road' community to be assessed fines for dusty roads. If the problem is solved fairly and it's a win/win... I will certainly anty up my share.

This is in many ways after all (and problem aside), about community. And I love this community.
'Nuff said.

-- rainshadow

[Kahunascott]

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Originally posted by Seeb

so with the 10% a year plus the 500, at year 5 it's $926 to live on the same dirt road i got now

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This years budget is based of 5% increase and we will see if we can lower it in the future. The $500 would put you on a paved road.

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it cost when it’s free...now here come the taxes.....

[jerry]

"I'd take it one step further and have HPP reach out to all the other substandard subdivisions to join them in the suit."

Orchidland would love to be part of a suit like this.


Jerry
Art and Orchids B&B
http://www.artandorchids.com

[Seeb]

the subdivision could get together for political clout. but legal wise i think each oe them is its own bag of worms.
the current incarnation of the hppoa was formed by a court decree. which is why i think this thing is a significant enough that it has to be run past that judge if it proceeds
and if anyone has a copy of that final judgment ( not the chunk of the appeal that the hui has posted, at the end of that it say remanded to the circuit court - that part ) i have been looking for years, it wasn't published.

[Seeb]

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Originally posted by Kahunascott

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Originally posted by Seeb

so with the 10% a year plus the 500, at year 5 it's $926 to live on the same dirt road i got now

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This years budget is based of 5% increase and we will see if we can lower it in the future. The $500 would put you on a paved road.

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it cost when it’s free...now here come the taxes.....

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They said last time that all the roads would be paved when it went out for a vote. I think there is Zero credibility that it will be any different this time

[Seeb]

And the fact that a board member resigned mid meeting to then be the bond broker last time gave me the warm fuzzys

[JerryCarr]

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Originally posted by Kahunascott

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Originally posted by Seeb

so with the 10% a year plus the 500, at year 5 it's $926 to live on the same dirt road i got now

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This years budget is based of 5% increase and we will see if we can lower it in the future. The $500 would put you on a paved road.

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Scott, it's $500 per year for five years, so that would cost $2500 plus the regular fees. If you're going to join this discussion, please answer some questions:

1. Can you absolutely guarantee that Seeb will get a paved road for his $2500?

2. The current delinquency rate for the established fees runs 12-15%. Paving all the roads for $20 million is based on everyone paying all the assessment. What would adding $500 per year do to that delinquency rate?

3. Are you and the BOD prepared to foreclose on what will likely be hundreds of homeowners who can't pay the assessment?

Forgive me for being blunt, but these questions need to be answered.

[Seeb]

if I thought there was a reasonable chance that my road would get paved it would be worth the $2500. but everything the board has touched in its history has turned to poop.

[JohnLuchau]

Do you think anyone who already has pavement on their road in Paradise Park is going to vote for a $500 assessment per year for 5 years? Do you think anyone not currently living here will vote for an assessment? When this ballot fails will we be any closer to getting the roads paved? No, because the board has decided to only increase fees by 5% instead of 10%. Each year the fee should increase 10% and each year the money should be used to pave a mile or two of road starting with the top of the subdivision and moving toward the bottom. That way everyone knows which road will be paved next and how long it will be until your road is paved. Those who moved here knew their roads were not paved. Most did not expect them to never be paved. After all roads are paved then the fees can be decreased.
Just my humble opinion but I think we should be paying road fees commensurate with their overall condition. I'd like to know how much it costs per mile to pave and maintain a county road. I've lived on my road for 20 years. Some years have seen better maintenance than others. It's still red cinder with some gravel on the top. It has potholes a month after it gets graded and rolled. When I first moved here we had road fees of about $30 a year if I recall. I can understand why folks are now complaining. We see someone on the next street up and two streets down with nice new pavement and we are still living with dusty roads after 20 years of waiting and ever increasing road maintenance fees.
In dry conditions the roads will be dusty unless they are paved. There will be more complaints and each one will need to be investigated by some entity of the government which costs us taxpayers money. If our community association gets fined it will be money that we had to pay that will be used to pay the fines and it will take away from money needed to mitigate the situation. In any event it will be our money.


John