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Pittbulls - It finally happened to me
#31
I do agree with coppercoin40 about the nail stick. It was disturbing for me to hear that comment from my vet! This issue has been going on for years, it is getting worse because of the population growth and the need to own dogs for protection. The problem, people refusing to take seriously the responsibility of properly confining the dogs on their property.

From reading the comments here, it is obvious we are on our own and to think how to handle this when it happens again!

Wayne's article has good information in it,
https://waynejoseph.wordpress.com/tag/ha...e-society/

Another issue, The Hawaii Island Humane Society for the entire Island is based in Kona, the board meetings are held in Kona. Can't remember the last time they had a meeting this side to discuss any ongoing animal concerns we are having.
I believe years ago, they were two separate entities, I wish we could go back to that, then maybe we would see more action and stronger enforcement! Complain to Donna Whitaker in Kona, as we don't know how Keaau shelter is documenting and passing on the number of complaints they are receiving!

http://www.hawaii247.com/2009/01/29/whit...e-society/
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#32
yup... I agree. Tho it would be better to show of force not just "SOMEONE", But some people... Heck cops show up in pairs for domestic squabbles and for good reason. These kinda things can get out of hand very quickly.
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#33
When I asked if you could move, I meant to a new location to reside.
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#34
I guarantee, if this ever happens to me, the dog owner will be coming to my house to clean up dog remains. End of story.
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#35
Sorry to hear of your ordeal. Your neighbor with the pits should pay for damages. Take them to court if they don't take responsibility. Police only issue traffic tickets for the revenuers nowadays. Their oath is to the mighty dollar, not the people unfortunately.

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#36
Man - chase a bike - get clobbered by a car - talking about negative reinforcement.

I was expecting to read "broke that dog of bike chasing" in the next sentence..... please say its so......

Every time I read these stories it takes me back to jr high and "to kill a mockingbird" seventh grade read.

Leads me to think about the seemingly lax BI attitude towards loose dogs - no rabies on island contributing to the lax local attitudes? or is it about property crime in rural areas?

An elegant solution is a well trained nasty big dog that gets along with the neighbors and does not venture out to the street .... possible but you got to start early with socialization and training and it helps if you let them sleep with you.....grin
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#37
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Originally posted by spunky

birdmove - if you entered HPP and cut over to Kaloli on the first street you came to, then you went down 28th street, not 30th. It is not surprising that you came into contact with 4 dogs right away. Several dog owners at that end of the street let their dogs loose.
I'm curious - did this happen recently? A few months back there was an older couple (in their 50s or 60s) riding their bikes in the same direction. A loose dog came out of a yard at full tilt barking and gearing to chase after them. The house happens to be at the top of a blind hill (its a blind hill when coming from the Kaloli side.) Just at that moment a car was coming in the opposite direction and hit the dog. I've since seen the dog (it lived) but have noticed that it no longer goes out into the street. At the time I stopped to talk to the cyclists and they said the dogs always chased them when they rode by. The person who hit the dog felt terrible but it was one of those fluke things. Anyhoo the loose dogs at that end of 28th are a definite issue.



Yes, it happened about 2-3 weeks ago. I was chased by four dogs running out of the same yard. I was heading from Shower towards Kaloli. The reason I chose that street was that it was the first paved street after turning off the highway.

Jon in Keaau/HPP
Jon in Keaau/HPP
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#38
I got attacked by pit bulls couple months ago riding bicycle. I thought i was dead when 2 of them charged- they instinctively work in pairs the other one sneaks up behind u. But the good thing is they are bulky and slow and can't spring for your throat like dobermans. so I used my bike as a shield pivotting 180 back and forth as each dog got closer as I "strategically retreated." and as I moved away out of their "territory" their intensity relented. I walked away with 1 shoe the other one slipped but I wasn't going back to retrieve. but luckily I got away so it make a big difference if you're unscathed or not. I don't know what I would have done if i was got injured but I almost forgot about it before I read this. which got me to thinking- what would have done if I wasn't so lucky.
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#39
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Originally posted by Bullwinkle....

An elegant solution is a well trained nasty big dog that gets along with the neighbors and does not venture out to the street .... possible but you got to start early with socialization and training and it helps if you let them sleep with you.....grin


We used to live next door to a guy with an Akita. That dog was the biggest marshmallow when he was out in the front yard with his owner. The neighborhood kids loved him because when the ice cream truck came by our neighbor bought the dog, and the neighborhood kids ice cream. But that dog had been so well trained between right and wrong, that he would lay down and roll over if he was in the front yard so the kids could pet him. If he was in the backyard, and owner was not home, he became the biggest meanest dog around. We had to feed him while the owner was on vacation. We put his food and water on a board that was lowered down over fence because no one could go in the yard. The yard had a white line painted just beyond where the gate closed and Sammy stayed behind that line, and would growl if someone got near the gate.

It's all about a lot of training, and love, and teaching your dog the same as kids, whats right and wrong.
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#40
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[i]Originally posted by Kapohocat

It's all about a lot of training, and love, and teaching your dog the same as kids, whats right and wrong.

Actually, it is all about the owner. The owners need the training. If you have a dog that has ever tried to attack you must have a fence where the dog can not get out. My two dogs bark and the puppy jumps up on the fence when folks walk by, but they can't get out. It is the prey instinct and the protection instinct. The responsibility rests with me, the owner to keep others safe when walking by my property. Training the dogs is a great idea, but a fence is better.[Big Grin]
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