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The article below is saying the Hwy 130 lane expansion from Kea'au to Pahoa will begin mid-2013. This is just for the stretches that already have shoulder lanes. Even if it is just shoulder expansion, this is going to make Hwy 130 all jammed up for months.
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http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/sections...ators.html
• Improvements to Highway 130, Keaau-Pahoa Road. In November, the state opened bids on the first phase of the plan to convert the existing shoulder lanes system on the highway into permanent lanes, and construction is scheduled to begin by mid-2013. Kenoi is asking for state funding for the larger plan to expand more than nine miles of the Keaau-Pahoa Highway to four lanes.
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Once they get started it is projected that completion will take eight years.
Before it is over residents, including HPP, will be screaming for an alternate route.
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Eight years? Hadn't heard the work time estimate. Add that to a possible roundabout? How long will that take and it looks like it completely blocks traffic all four ways while it's being built. They did a pretty good job redoing the Ainaloa intersection and it didn't take that long. With the rain, the work has been delayed, but 11 into Hilo has been routed pretty well while it is being paved. Sure glad I am not commuting to town everyday for a job or school.
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Rob, maybe getting clogged up in the Puna Makai subdivisions is the
only way that a PMAR may be developed.
Reality overwhelms nimbyism.
But it leaves the question of the major landholder in the path of
a PMAR.
Or at least a PMAR that is completely separate from 130.
This whole thing may be an issue in at least the medium and long
term economic integration of Puna and Hilo as one defacto unit.
This raises some interesting thoughts and questions about Pahoa
and the nature of the PCDP.[?]
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The fact is that the PCDP has been sabotaged by Billy Kenoi, Bill Walter of Shipman, James Weatherford and J. Yoshimoto.
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No one doubts a need for a 2nd road, and a makai route makes sense. And i dont think there would be much oposition to a regular county road crossing one of the existing roads. But dont start the hate HPP shtick, Shipman is the 800lbs gorilla in the room
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It is a really cheap shot to constantly rag on the residents of HPP for being NIMBYs when talking about the PMAR, but in my case we are talking about the PMAR literally running through my backyard!
Before buying in HPP we did thorough due diligence, I found every possible route that had ever been publicly discussed and we bought a place that was not on any of those routes. Right after we closed on our home, a route that will take the back 120 feet of my yard was added. Our house sits high up on a hill and then drops off rapidly to the back, we would have to build a 45 ft. wall to have any privacy or sound barrier between us and all of lower Puna commuting through my back yard to Hilo every day. That route was added because of concerns voiced by Bill Walters of the Shipman properties.
Why are the concerns of one powerful family allowed to outweigh all the public input and personal concerns of an entire subdivision with a population of over 11,000? Why are we accused of being NIMBYs but the Shipman wealth is allowed to dictate where, if or when the PMAR will be built? A PMAR is needed, people in HPP know that, but we do want to have some say in how our subdivision is split in half, and how the route is chosen, is that so unreasonable?
Finally, we are all punatics, dividing us up by subdivision, and pitting the makai and mauka communities against each other, is the perfect way for the rich and powerful to shove some really terrible plan down our throats that fits THEIR vision of where Puna should be developing. Do you really want to aid and abet in that process by pointing fingers at HPP?
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Here we go again: living in Puna means driving to Hilo for everything while "they" deny both local development and useful transit...
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Carol, I looked above and didn't find any mention of any NIMBY until your post. Then you proceeded to make the NIMBY case. I do agree with your last point.
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Rob,
See Punaticbychoice's post above for the first mention of NIMBY.
I am just tired of cheap shots being taken at HPP residents whenever the PMAR comes up, like we are this powerful force preventing the PMAR from happening, when all the residents of HPP want is a voice at the table when this road gets put through. Unlike some on this forum, I only own one piece of property, my home, I do not have the resources to pick up and move when the PMAR gets put through my backyard because that is where the rich and powerful Bill Walters wants it, which means my peaceful home will turn into rapidly depreciating house with a busy roadway running through the back yard.
How would you feel if it was your backyard, or your rental house in Pahoa, or the middle of your farm being planned for the route of this busy road, and your voice is completely drowned out by the political pull of a rich and powerful family of large landowners?
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