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Argus smallest package home.
#11
Just permit it as a house it will save hassles in the future
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#12
The Argus family was great to work with .
WE chose to do our own thing but Mr Argus gave
us good suggestions,deliverers were on time.
He and his wife even came to the job site
giving my husband needed encouragement.
I give Argus two thumbs up!
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#13
I've only heard good things about Argus. It's the other contractors that give me pause. Just wondering about stories, good and bad, and the costs. Also, it seems HELCO will only give poles to houses and wondering if they make exceptions for the Argus garage w bathroom packages.
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#14
We are also preparing to build one of the Argus packages. Argus is superb to help in planning and modifications to the package. We are interested in finding the most reasonable and competent people to do the construction. Will appreciate suggestions. MAHALO
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#15
HELCO doesn't "give" anything to anyone; they only care that you have money and permits.

If you're building an "ag structure", permit it as such, HELCO will gladly bring you "ag power" (at a higher rate than residential, of course). For extra adventure/excitement, invoke HR2646.
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#16
If HELCO "gave" you something it would be at the expense of all of the other customers - they're not a charity organization and neither are all of the other customers - you should pay your way so we don't have to pay both ours and yours
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#17
HELCO doesn't GIVE anyone anything, ever; perhaps you mean "those selfish off-grid users who aren't helping to subsidize the power monopoly"?
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#18
If truly off grid, you get nothing from Helco, so no reason to pay.

David

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#19
Um, yeah, I realize I have to pay for power poles and for power, but you need the HELCO to agree to run power to your pole, and for that, they need a permit. I am only trying to find out what other people have done regarding getting the permit and pole. I will just call them when I get a minute.
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#20
HELCO wants more than just "permits": you have to buy in to the SSPP (most subdivisions; Nanavale has no SSPP), and you have to be within 100 feet of the line (or install suitable poles to cover the distance from the line to your house).

You might be able to claim "ag" and get "ag power", but you will probably still need a licensed electrician + electrical permit, even if your "ag structure" does not require a building permit.

You provide the pole. Requirements for "temporary" poles have changed; a "tripod" is no longer acceptable. Freestanding metal pole must be at least 4" diameter. Supposedly HELCO can be forced to share a pole with Telcom, if that pole is minimum 6" diameter and 16' high (Telcom requires 14' + must have 18" between power and tel).

The "pole" can be attached to your "structure", in which case a smaller diameter will work, my guess is they would require 2" pipe + weatherhead. (It happens that 2" is the smallest conduit that can be filled with enough wire to handle a 200A feed, even though HELCO probably won't bring you that much.)

You also provide the "hook" at the top of the pole, and a ground rod. (If you're getting phone service, Telcom wants two ground rods.)

Note that all Telcom installs are under 50V and therefore permit-exempt; if you can put up a 4" pole, 14' high, within 100' of the line, and sink two ground rods, Telcom will bring a phone line to the pole, no permits required. (In this case the pole is your demarc, so you might have to lay conduit to bring the phone back to your "barn" or whatever.)
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