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Originally posted by afwjam
are you saying that I own whatever I pay for and can do what I want with it? There are entire families on government subsistence, we can tell them what to do?
I said it was presumptuous for a taxpayer to tell someone what to do. I wouldn't suggest it. On the other hand, if a person accepts assistance they might realize they are not entirely on their own, someone is helping them, and they might recognize that is taking place.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Originally posted by afwjam
Oh, since I am forced to pay taxes are you saying that I own whatever I pay for and can do what I want with it? There are entire families on government subsistence, we can tell them what to do?
(...and I quote...) "You people with the money and the power, you think you can just own and control everything."
Right?
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Just for the sake of argument. Let's say a working poor person was paying into the social security system to support the aging baby boomers who are hoarding resources. Let's say that person had children that qualified for "free school lunches" because someone in some gov't entity understood what was going on. Is that young person with the family really actually receiving assistance? Or does it only appear that way?
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Originally posted by unknownjulie
Where did I state that the school lunches are free?
The breakfast program costs taxpayers money whether the breakfast is free or partly subsidized:
8. How much does the program cost?
For Fiscal Year 2003, Congress appropriated $1.68 billion for the School Breakfast Program, up from $1.54 billion in Fiscal Year 2002.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/breakfast/Ab...tfacts.htm
I don't know if you read my post - but I'm on your side, I know how hard it is to raise a family. We all accept help from time to time, from our parents, grandparents, family, the school breakfast program, and people with food advice on Punaweb. I think most of the people here making suggestions here are trying to help you.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
I've noticed that as well Bullwinkle,,, and as long as everyone blaiming someone or something, I'm accusing Target for enabling me to eat too much cheese. : )
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Originally posted by afwjam
What if you don't have a choice, just like the people paying the taxes? I honestly believe that the financial situation most families are in is no fault of their own, an ever larger percentage of the middle class is dependent on foodstamps now. 50 million Americans are on food stamps, 85% of Hawaiis section 8 housing is in Puna.
Pay attention: current draft of Farm Bill as passed by the House this week
drops funding for the food stamp program.
Whether it passes the Senate is almost irrelevant; the message is
very clear.
We need a more local-cooperative barter-collective economy in which
everyone produces
something, or we're all going to starve well before the islands are sold to the Chinese.
Mandatory volunteer work required of parents for X hours ?
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Abolish food stamps, welfare and medicaid. Keep social security and medicare. Time for some thinning of the herd.
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