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Well, now the protestors are in a parking lot across from KTA on Puainako. Numerous calls into police for traffic hazard, and now an adjacent land owner is having the police come down to get these people off her land. Avoid the area as they are all over the corner, and one of them almost got into a fight with a driver already.
What a damn waste of police resources, not to mention, the poor land owner who is being confronted for protecting her own property! Good Lord !]
The right to protest is not in question. The manner in which it is done in this instance, is questionable.
JMO.
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Just drove by them at their final destination- HELCO! At least I think that's where HElCO is. (by Island Naturals) Anyhow, they appeared to be a festive bunch and were chanting and drumming. There was also a "save Pohoiki" contingent.
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Save Pohoiki... Where is it going?
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Originally posted by ericlp
Save Pohoiki... Where is it going?
It's (the low elevation land in the Pohoiki area) going to be inundated with seawater eventually due to global warming, which is due to burning of fossil fuels, such as the diesel used to power this island. I'm assuming that's what the Save Pohoiki people are all about and that they want us to get off fossil fuels ASAP and develop our geothermal resources responsibly.
Or perhaps they're concerned about all the seepage from cesspools and septics in Kapoho that migrate to the waters of Pohoiki.
Or maybe they are trying to save it from all the agricultural runoff from areas mauka that make it to the seawater.
Or perhaps they are concerned about the pollution from all the cars and boats that make use of the area and runs off into the water every time it rains and every time a boat goes in and out of that ramp.
Or perhaps they're concerned about all the people that swim in the waters there and all the impacts that sunscreens, lotions, and urine have on the underwater ecosystem there.
Other than those things, there are no other legitimate risks Pohoiki needs to be saved from. And I don't imagine any of those folks have ever thought about any of these risks or ever done a darn thing about them.
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Originally posted by pahoated
Let's see, this is the logic they are using:
a. Walk on Helco, show solidarity, gather the usual core 200.
b. The brave 200 walk through Pahoa, stop for a coconut break and pass the pipes around. Drops down to 50.
c. By the Maku'u water stop, about 30 left.
d. About 17 walk to Hilo. They call the 200 and say drive down in your guzzlers (actually on orders from William, stomp on it!) right away to show the solidarity.
Make a big deal about a walk, then just pretend to ignore almost everybody drove down there in their car. Yep, that is anti-geothermal cultist logic, or more correctly, rationalization.
"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"
Think the support for GEO will be EXACTLY the same no matter who HELCO awards the contract too?
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Opihikao - apologies for not replying sooner. I don't think Portlandia is on air at the moment, I watched the series via Netflix. When I first saw it the first thing I thought of was Puna. Perhaps not surprising since there seem to be many here from that area! It's a satirical look at some alternative lifestyles...
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I drove by the HELCO office at a little after midday. I was out for a sandwich and was curious about the demonstration. The Big Island Chronicle says there were hundreds of people demonstrating there - http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2013/0...e-in-hilo/
I saw a few dozen. Maybe the rest were hiding. There was some traffic backup as you might expect, but other than that, well, it was pretty underwhelming.
Tom
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I saw an abandon "save pohoiki" sign today laying in the road ... i picked up and put it in the trash.
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Tom, I'll have to watch on my mo'opuna Netflix thingy. Thank you.
After this whole protest, I am wondering what the police cost incurred is? Traffic control on Kilauea Avenue was four (4) officers and two (2) "protecting" HELCO. Not to mention the numerous calls throughout the day (ie. parking violations, complaints of people walking into traffic, yelling at passersby, etc.)
Perhaps Puna Pono paid for them as Special Duty officers, or did we all incur that expense as taxpayers?
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Originally posted by opihikao
Here is a first hand look at what happened today, at least the first 25 minutes:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37439741
There is quite a myriad of issues here, the main topic being geothermal development in this instance. It was difficult to watch this video, however, between the running in and out of traffic on Hwy. 130, with someone blowing a conch shell, with the drums beating in the background perhaps for cadence (definitely not a beat that is Polynesian, never mind Hawaiian),and the "yip, yip, yip, aye, yai, yai..." (almost of an Indian nature) in the background, my stomach churned.
This is where we rode horse with Papa Bill Kamelamela, this is where Papa Lyman and other kupuna gathered (where the Pahoa High School start point was) to visit or share poi, fish, inu, ulu, whatever. We'd get our supplies from the Cash & Carry, fill gas at the corner with the old Japanese man, visit with all who passed by while waiting, and so much more.
Today, this is where people are angry, marching, beating drums, running across the deadliest highway in our State, claiming to "Save Pohoiki",rebuke HELCO and geothermal development.
Today, for those of us who have been here for generations, and myself over 50 years, I cannot even feel comfortable driving through Pahoa town without literally locking my doors and rolling up the windows. We find trash (39 gallon size bags full), beer cans, diapers, abandoned cars/trucks, needles, druggies squatting and their trash, on our sacred property in Puna.
Save Pohoiki? Why not start with your trash, both human and material, and stop dumping on our aina! Leave Puna the way it is? No thank you. Maybe the way it WAS in our day, but sure as hell not what it is today.
Pono? Really? I wish my kupuna could share with all these transplants who profess to represent "Pele" and OUR community what that word means. It is not verbalized, it is lived.
One young lady who marched today said to me, "We have to take care of our girl, Paylay". OMFG.[!] Tutu Pele is NOT a "girl". It took every fiber of my being to be gracious as possible, and explain; Pele, our Tutu ( yes, the koko that runs through my veins is of Pele) does not need anyone in human form to speak for her.
I warned the young ka po'e haole to be careful running across the highway with that camera, and offered her some water. Left with a half smile, and continued to shake my head in disbelief at the encounter. "Our girl"???? OMG.
Pity we all can't somehow find middle ground with all of these people in order to move forward. My kupuna would not be pleased to see our "piko", our home (truly the roots of our ohana) desecrated in this manner.
Apologies for the long winded rant. HELCO is not going to "stop the RFP", nor is solar or wind going to give us firm power and lower our cost. We need to find middle ground and move forward for all of us and our keiki and mo'opuna.
JMO. Thank you in advance for your patience and (hopefully) understanding my frustration.
Ke Akua Pu. (God be with us all.)
Thanks for sharing your views on this matter. It's an opinion that should carry weight. Unfortunately as with several rural areas, this area became a hideaway for many who have no respect for themselves let alone anyone else. As a former land developer/builder, I moved here because I identified the threat of the volcano as a natural deterrent for major development. Many here don't recognize this very real natural deterrent with regard to major development and still circle the wagons with illegitimate concerns regarding development enterprise. As a developer this would be the last place on Earth a rational minded investor would sink money into. Yet the misfits still circle the wagons every time they perceive a threat when in reality if they really cared about the land they would be cleaning their yards of the invasive plants and garbage and helping to clean up the rest of the garbage strewn about the area. When it comes right down to the heart of the matter these people don't really care about the land, they only care about protecting themselves from a perceived threat of mass development like that seen in Honolulu or other major metropolitan areas. In reality their selfishness has beguiled them into fabricating falsies of being rampaged by development and therefore their perceived sanctuary would be eviscerated. All of which, is baseless fear and simple protectionism based on their pre-Puna experience.
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