Fukushima

[Bullwinkle]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/world/asia...?hpt=hp_t3

when do you think they will share that all the tanks share the same failing temporary rubber seam sealant? ....

[fishnchamp1]

Just happened to run across this today...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...n-bananas/


William DeBoe
Palm Beach, FL
Honomu, HI sometime 2015
Moe'uhane Oihana mahi ai

[PaulW]

Thanks fishnchamp1. Too many people don't understand the first thing about radiation and/or don't realize exactly how far away Japan is.
It's been over 2.5 years now and there has been zero effect on Hawaii. The Doomers were wrong again.

[Bullwinkle]

Woods Hole begs to differ:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/leaky-fuk...6C10963427

[Midnight Rambler]

quote:

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Originally posted by Kapohocat

Although Cesium is a liquid metal at room temp before it breaks down, into cs-137 which is a salt.

It looks like 30-31 yrs to break down but not airborne - it will dissolve into water because it is a salt. (I did not say disburse and become inert). Airborne is not cs-137's issue. When the water can absorb no more, it will particulate out like salt in a glass of water.

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This is a very confused mishmash. Metallic cesium is very reactive and burns spontaneously in air or water, forming a compound like cesium hydroxide or cesium oxide which can then be dispersed by air or dissolve in water. Cs-137 is one of the isotopes of cesium; it is only produced in nuclear reactors or bombs, not through any natural radioactive decay. In a nuclear explosion, the cesium formed is vaporized and gets dispersed around the world as very fine dust. It would indeed precipitate out of a saturated solution, but the quantities being put in by the reactors are incredibly small compared to the volume of the ocean.

[Obie]

Bullwinkle
I would suggest that you don't go to Japan and order fish for dinner !!

The rest of us should be ok !!!!!

[PaulW]

"Woods Hole begs to differ"

About what? I didn't see anything in that article that would unduly concern someone in Hawaii.
It's terrible for the local population, especially the fishermen, but nothing compared to the destruction from the tsunami.

[Bullwinkle]

what I read was

1) Japan (Topco) has been less than transparent since day one about how much has really been released.

2) No one really knows how much has been leaked into the ocean - the cesium and other short lived isotopes are working their way through and out of the ocean

3) Strontium 90 is finding its way into the calcium of fish bones

4) There is no way to predict the severity of this - because there is no data.

why is this important to Hawaii? - we are downstream of an ever expanding plume that has not been quantified nor stopped - they are dumping and leaking as we type.

[punafish]

Yo Bullwinkle, it's TEPCO (with an E), but you're right about everything else. And they've been evasive and dishonest since day one. That's what happens when business and government get too cozy, but we already know that. TEPCO should never have been in charge of the clean-up in the first place. Their officers should have all gone to jail for negligence. At this juncture, international pressure for direct intervention and transparency would be prudent, as the repercussions will surely extend beyond Japan. Somehow I don't think this will happen.

As for how much it will affect Hawaii? No idea. But no matter how you spin it, there's no upside. My heart goes out to the Japanese people who lost everything. They are victims of the greed and negligence of TEPCO and their government.

[Lin W]

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08...hdiIGIm2PN





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