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More on GMO's
#1
I don't believe I can come up with a better written or more convincing article than this so I have copied it here in its entirety !


"If The Farmers Make Money, The Farmers Will Farm

Richard Ha writes:

Though there are 820,000 acres of farmland on our agriculture-based Big Island, our island’s farmers were not consulted when Bill 113, the anti-GMO bill, was drafted.

There is no question: Bill 113 will harm the livelihood of Big Island farmers. It also means they will have to use more pesticides. It will drive up their costs and make them much less competitive. It means our island will be less food-secure.

Is this what we really want? Call or write your councilperson and tell him or her to kill Bill 113.

Ask him or her to create a task force so we can thoughtfully determine our way forward, in the spirit of aloha – so we can provide affordable food for the rubbah slippah folks and move toward food self-sufficiency.

When new biotech seeds are developed, people will be able to buy small packets of them over the Internet. But not here. Bill 113 will make it a crime for Big Island farmers to use those same seeds. Farmers using those seeds, which will make farming less pesticide-oriented and more affordable, would become criminals.

Such seeds are being developed right now by the University of Hawai‘i and other universities and will help our crops become virus- and disease-resistant. This will result in less pesticide usage and lower cost. With Bill 113, only Big Island farmers will be banned from using them. This will force Big Island farmers to use more pesticides than farmers off-island. Farmers are responsible stewards of the land, and this is a depressing and discouraging thought for Big Island farmers.

More than 90 percent of the food grown on the Big Island is grown by conventional farmers. Bill 113 will drive their farming costs up, not down, and this is going to discourage farmers from farming. When farmers’ costs go up, they are less able to pass those increased costs on. Farmers are “price takers,” rather than “price makers.”

As costs go up, farming becomes less attractive and fewer farmers continue to farm. Bill 113 makes the Big Island less food-secure.

Organic farmers elsewhere will benefit from new biotech animal feed crops, because these will increase the source of manure for composting. Nitrogen is important for protein and this is a crucial weak link for organic farmers. Bill 113 means organic farmers on the Big Island won’t have these benefits that other farmers will.

There are people that want to believe GMO crops are not safe, but they are ignoring the evidence. The science. All the world’s major health organizations endorse the use of GMO crops as safe.

More than two trillion meals made of foods containing GMOs have been served over the last 20 years. In spite of all those meals, here in Hawai‘i we have the longest life expectancy in the nation for those 65 years and older.

Since ancient times, farmers in Hawai‘i have been respected in the Hawaiian culture. Bill 113 will forever change that relationship and will, instead, criminalize farmers. Some folks may even feel justified in taking matters into their own hands. Is this really what we want?

Please contact your councilperson and tell them you want them to kill Bill 113 and form a task force to carefully, intelligently study how we move forward.

It's not a matter of who is right. It is a matter of what is right."
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#2
Those with the most to lose have the most incentive to lie. Who has more to lose here?

Using more pesticides is a fabrication. There is no direct correlation - using more pesticides is a choice and certainly not forced upon them by this bill - completely irrelevant.

Organic farming comment is so ridiculous...no organic farmer wants manure from livestock fed on such feedstuffs...is this a blatant lie? Or blatant incompetence?

Industrial Mono-cropping farmers have zero respect for the island or aina. Shameful to try and spin something like 'hawaiian culture' into this argument when its obvious industrial mono-cropping farmers have no zero respect.
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#3
Simple (dumb) question: if Big Island farming is such a thriving industry, why don't we already have food security?

Or are they trying to argue that better GMO technology (with matching pesticides) will somehow reduce the price of gas, waive the inspections, and provide free labor?

Definitely losing sight of the main issue, here..
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#4
Yeah no joke. ~90% of the food consumed on the island is shipped in on a boat. there is no booming farm industry...I don't give a darn about the food people grow to ship off island...in fact they are part of the problem.


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#5
So it's ok to pass a bad bill that could kill what farming we have on the Big Island ??

So they listen to Jeffrey Smith who has been called a flim-flam man and don't listen to the farmers.

I think I would rather believe the farmers and the scientists.
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#6
If you want farming on the Big Island no one is stopping you from trying Obie.

This bill doesn't kill farming on the Big Island, I know plenty of farmers who could care less and will keep on farming.

I don't endorse Mr. Smith, and I agree with you that it is quite odd for the council to lend credit to his "ideas".

I'd rather not trust anyone with such bias and obvious financial interest in passing such legislation. It's hard to pick a scientist to trust these days there are studies which support both sides..."even the devil can quote scripture".

Personally I want farming to continue and thrive on the Big Island, but no one consults me...I think that we can farm and support our food supply without shipping food over on boats, I think the biggest issue with this is subsidies which reduce the cost of oil and therefore the price to grow the food (industrial mono-cultures think combines and row crops) and oil to transport it here on a boat. The real cost of this is not apparent and would not be able to compete with food grown locally.


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#7
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Originally posted by kalakoa




Definitely losing sight of the main issue, here..



I agree, we're being distracted. What we all want is food grown locally to provide jobs for local farmers, instead of shipping food here on a boat. Instead of figuring out how to do this we are being "divided and conquered" by inter-fighting over "GMOs".

An interesting note on the above would be the recent information on funding coming from off island to support the various movements. Too lazy to post source, Pretty sure there is sources on richards website.



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#8
The anti-GM crowd, if successful, will most likely end up destroying most if not all farming on the Big Island as it will be defenceless against the bugs and diseases that get around easier and easier thanks to our connected world.

This destruction isn't necessarily their intention. They just fear what they do not understand. That's human nature.
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#9
Are you a farmer?
Are you a scientist?
Do you have experience creating genetically modified organisms?
Do you have experience farming organically?
Do you have experience applying, producing, or cleaning up pesticides of any kind?

I'm curious what is the factual basis of your statement's? Are they opinions?
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#10
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Originally posted by Big_Island

I too would like to know why trolling is allowed in the anti-geo and anti gmo thread's and not allowed in others?

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