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bad traffic jam from Keaau/Pahoa turnoff
#11
The residents of HPP should build a frontage road parallel to highway 130 now.

The state is going to eventually build a frontage road to address all of the driveways !

The traffic you all now experiencing is going to last for 10 years !!

Why not hire a bulldozer and geturdun !!!
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#12
why let Pahoa have all the fun.
A Roundabout at every intersection.
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#13
You offering to help HPP pay for this Obie? It sure is easy to tell other people how to spend their hard earned money.

Carol
Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
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#14
quote:
Originally posted by jlgerk

why let Pahoa have all the fun.
A Roundabout at every intersection.


almost agree...roundabouts at shower and paradise...nuff
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#15
By the way, last night, due to this traffic jam, my daughter asked me to go down to their place on 3rd and Makuu to feed some of their rabbits. It was dark by then. I rode my 200cc scooter. On the way back I was heading up Makuu to go right on 7th, as it is paved. Some clown was roaring down Makuu, and was going so fast the car flew off the road after they topped one of the little hills, and came down so hard that the suspension was totally collapsed and maybe it was the bumper hitting and scraping the pavement. And I had passed joggers and pedestrians just before that.

Is life so worthless, for the driver and those he puts in danger, that he would drive this way? Maybe he was pissed from the bad traffic jam, or maybe about to pee his pants?? No excuse to drive like this.

Jon in Keaau/HPP
Jon in Keaau/HPP
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#16
Warning: Rant Ahead!

Tonight it would have been a pretty normal commute, with the traffic backup starting at the Kea'au High football field, until I realized that the woman behind me was far more focused on her cell phone conversation and playing with her hair than her driving. After the first time she almost rear ended me I started leaving about 15 extra feet between me and the car in front of me because then I had room to still move up when she didn't notice the traffic had stopped and just kept talking and driving. I ended up having to do this 9 times between the HS and the merge! At the merge she almost wiped out the motorcycle who was driving perfectly legally and didn't even realize it.

So be warned: there is a woman driving a bronze Subaru SUV that still has the Hilo Mazda temporary plate in the front who thinks that stop and go traffic is the perfect time to be totally distracted. I've been rear ended before, and even at low speeds it is painful for months, plus you end up having to replace your airbag which is expensive. Why can't people just drive when they are driving, instead of trying to multitask. Driving is already multitasking you have to pay attention in 3 spatial dimensions, plus estimate the relative speed of other drivers, isn't that enough to do?



Carol
Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
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#17
Roundabout would be magical on 130 Old Keaau, paradise, Macuu....
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#18
Regarding the backup problems that have occurred this week, I'd be interested to know when the road work on Hwy 130 ends in the afternoon. That's the only reason I can think of for the queues. People waving signs at the bottleneck doesn't help, I've whinged about that in the past, but they weren't there today (at least I didn't see them this time) nor were they there earlier in the week yet the delays were severe. 3pm is when the traffic starts to get heavy so if the bottleneck starts to come into effect then it just translates into huge delays at 4, 5 or 6pm. Not particularly proud of this because it doesn't sound very exiting but as an undergraduate physics student I did some research on the "physics of traffic jams" and see what I saw then happening at the bottle neck. It's essentially the physics of waves and what happens earlier gets transmitted down the line and in time. One bad or inconsiderate driver can cause massive delays hours later even if they don't cause an accident. For those of you that have driven some of the busier highways on the mainland and have experienced the slow down/speed up traffic pattern that seems to happen for no reason that's likely the cause. Someone brakes, the driver behind doesn't realise until too late and then brakes really hard, and it gets transmitted miles further back on the highway.

So, here's a question I have. In Honolulu they often schedule road work at night. I realise this is much more expensive way of doing things but why isn't that done here as well? My guess is that the total cost of causing so many delays, overheated cars, people late, frustrated drivers, people being late to work etc outweighs the cost of the road work itself. Only a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case.

Tom
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#19
PS. I should add that I completely agree with HereOnThePrimalEdge. The current plan will only move the bottleneck, not fix it.
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#20
Stop complaining -- we're lucky they're even moving the bottleneck.
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