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Still tossing some idea's around and wondered how easy the process would be to permit a shop with no plumbing or electric. Lets say a 1000sf/1500sf shop (4 walls, 2 doors and a slab underneath) Is this a much easier process than a home? It's gotta be right?
Going this route, we'd have some dry shelter to be in while we continued work on the land and got things ready and figured out for our future home. Also I really would like to have a shop this size vs. the 600sf building we're allowed to build with no permit. I think we're going to scrap the guest house idea (at least for now) to make way for a shop if the permitting process is more relaxed.
We're hoping this will be easier and cheaper to get a final on while still providing us with a dry shell to stay in(temporarily). We could then at a later date (and when money allows) pull the permits for some electrical and plumbing.
Anyone here have any experience getting a larger structure permitted with no utilities?
Thanks everyone
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I do not think that scaling down a project will speed its approval. It all goes slow. If your plan is #46 in the stack it will languish along with the rest in the pile.
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Speed is not my concern, ease is. I figured going this route I could get a final much easier with hopefully just an inspector to come see the forms, and then to see the framing. At that point I should get the final and I could then side it and roof it. Right? No hassles or spent money with plumbing and electric (at least not yet) and I got my building finaled. I'll deal with the upgrade permits later was my thinking.
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Building permits are separate from electrical or plumbing permits. Normally a final inspection would be after roof and siding are on.
It is true that you can leave out a lot or all finish details. If it is not in the plan it would be required at final. But why deprive yourself of the benefit of water or electricity? Or a window or lanai? Not sure what your point is.
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The point is to have the cheapest dry space to stay in temporarily that's got the final stamp on it. It will ultimately become my shop with electricity and plumbing because I will pull upgrade permits at a later date. But until then I will save that money and put it towards getting the main home built.
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If on 2 acres (or more) of ag-zoned land, I would exercise the exemptions granted by HR2646; this lets you have an "ag building" up to 1000sf (max 20' spans, all plumbing/electrical to be permitted by County -- but the structure is "by right").
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7, You won't be pulling electrical or plumbing permits anyway.... only licensed contractors can do that. But it is wise to get a building permit... if you don't the structure will have zero appraisal value.
Kalakoa, AG zoning does not qualify a lot for AG buildings in the eyes of the county code. Only actual agricultural operations do that. I had to have the tax department inspect my operation to qualify.... which they did. Having AG zoning does not mean you are farming, it just means you own land in an AG zone.
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People seem to do a lot of dancing to try to get away with something. Living third world style is not an adventure it s**ks when the weather bad or your sick. Why not just build the smallest package home and go from there
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No dancing here seeb I'm already wearing my work boots
Thanks for the imply though, it was amusing.
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Just FYI
The "ag" shed if permitted would need another hoop to jump through if there is no house within 100 ft.
It adds a fire dept inspection of plans.
