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NEW living wage??
#81
Rob says:
"You can always shop at a health food store where employees are paid the normal low rates and all the food costs 30% more anyway."
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Or you can save 30% and eat Nitrites, BHT, antibiotics, pesticides, GMO and HGH by shopping at WalMart.

Is WalMart supporting a raise in the minimum wage as Russell is doing?
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#82
Greg, Health food is wonderful stuff for those that can afford it. The health food industry has about a 5% market share. Hundreds of millions of people in this country live just fine without it. You can dispute that if you like but there is scant evidence that eating only health food will keep you safe to your 100th birthday. For those that want to, that's fine.... but the facts are that it is a minority opinion.

My problem with health food is more with its adherents who seem to treat it like a holy religion. Heath food is the message from God, everything else is false, bad or even evil. Turn toward the light or be lost for eternity.

This whole Bill 113 mess is rife with that attitude.

I am of the opinion that genetics has more to do with resistance to disease and one's ability to process the variables of our food supply. Interestingly it is very likely genetic modification, gene therapy, which may ultimately do more to aid the average person's survival and long life than stone ground organic anything.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#83
One day, the poor will have nothing left to eat except the rich


Keep that in mind 1%
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#84
Gene therapy! That sounds like science; we should ban it!!!! To arms Margaret.

Euell Gibbons the father of the natural food movement died at age 64. Of natural causes. (as reported on CBS News)
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#85
The term "health food" is a misnomer. There is "food" and there is stuff that people get cheaply and easily that has no nutritional value (whitebread).

Now, are you saving a dollar buying white bread, or are you wasting the money that you paid for essentially, nothing?

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#86
That is a choice everyone gets to make. My elderly uncle likes white bread. It is not appropriate to force one's opinion or religion on others.

Back in 1980 I got to talk with an old 90 year old farmer.... born in 1890. I asked him what was his fondest memory from the 'old days' when organic farming was all there was. He said it was his first bite of canned food... creamed corn.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#87
the way i see the living wage is that folks would be able to make that choice processed or farm fresh, foster farms or free range, sugar or corn syrup ......... there is a difference the healthier the more it usually costs.....


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#88
The only problem I have with that is healthier is in the eye of the beholder. There is nothing to suggest that GMO food, as an example, lacks nutritional value. It is more a philosophy than a proven fact.

I tend to subscribe to Ben Franklin's adage: All things in moderation.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#89
"It is more a philosophy than a proven fact."

More as Eric Hoffer masterfully described the pattern about 60 years ago. Glad I read his book when I was still young.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1...lias%3Daps&field-keywords=eric+hoffer+true+believer
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#90
Then maybe what we need is an increase in the minimum wage and a cap on the top wage ----- "all things in moderation" - agreed in concept -

The "golden mean" .... Aristotle shared the concept as well - thats old school - grin

if we are starting a reading list - I nominate Sinclairs "jungle" a good look at how corporations have and still manage what we eat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
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