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Originally posted by Midnight Rambler
Easy to see why Syd Singer lives in Opihikao as well; right at home alongside opihikaobob.
My ohana piko is Opihikao/Kaimu/Kapahua. This was almost insulting, however, I take it you are not from Opihikao, nor the surrounding area, thus, cannot fault the author of the insensitive post. My Greatgrandmother, Kukumahalo, is rolling in her grave. JMO.
As such, I want to change my name that I use here so as not to be associated with the "alternate thinking" that tend to frequent this forum (wanted to for awhile due to convoluted perception). Mr. Tucker, with all due respect, are we allowed, Sir?
Good God.[  !]
ETA: Going into POG status. Ugh! (Sorry, used all of my five (5) posts today. I'm done.)
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Opihikao - just in case, I learned very quickly the difference between Opihikao and Opihikaobob. I know you were concerned about possible misidentification a few months back. The fact is, as you pointed out, we have another storm on the way and how on earth do we know this unless "THEY" want to tell us in advance. It's all utter and complete nonsense, same with the Fukushima fear-mongers although I don't think they've quite reached the level that Bob has. Yet. But they are getting there.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)
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"All truth passes through three stages."
Not everything in the first stage is found to be true. Probably 90+% is found to be false.
In the second stage, some ideas touted as being true are opposed because they are wrong. Think apartheid or WWII German policies.
What's left in the third stage may be true, but there's a lot of crazy left behind in the first two stages.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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Originally posted by TomK
Opihikao - just in case, I learned very quickly the difference between Opihikao and Opihikaobob. I know you were concerned about possible misidentification a few months back. The fact is, as you pointed out, we have another storm on the way and how on earth do we know this unless "THEY" want to tell us in advance. It's all utter and complete nonsense, same with the Fukushima fear-mongers although I don't think they've quite reached the level that Bob has. Yet. But they are getting there.
Thank you, TomK, for understanding. I feel for our host who has provided this forum, and must deal with all of it.
Been watching this next storm closely, and seems to be not as severe as the last (so far). Stay safe all.
FYI: (Tonight's update)
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/202017/weather
The cold front which soaked most of the State is now over the Big Island with a few scattered showers for Maui and the Big Island. Drier conditions Saturday, although moisture from the front along with another incoming disturbance might bring heavy rain and a slight chance for thunderstorms Sunday night through Wednesday.
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I think you guys should lay off the crazy guy. This is "punaweb" and he does bring a fairly accurate "puna" view (at times) not condoning/endorsing any of his beliefs but juat a thought about crazy folk or 'punatics'...
Have you guys heard of the "wheaton eco scale"
http://www.permies.com/t/3069/toxin-ecto...-Eco-Scale
See link for detail, so...
Using pauls, scale as an analogy for nearly anything you would consider crazyness ecofriendly or otherwise its easy to see how to someone no matter who you are you definitely seem like a crazy person.
Just a thought.
...And no one mistakes him for you Opihikao! - so no worries - keep posting please!
Aloha mai kakou
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HOTPE - I like to quote Carl Sagan in cases like this:
"The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
There is another quote of Sagan's that I think is particularly relevant to this island because of recent events, at least in my opinion:
"“We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.”
I'm not sure sure I'd go as far as Sagan on this, but the combination of science, technology and ignorance is a problem and I see it every day unfortunately. I'm not advocating a return to simpler times, quite the reverse, but if the ignorance part can't be fixed, which is probably education, then I'm troubled about the future. I find that scarier than things like Fukushima and climate change.
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"but if the ignorance part can't be fixed, which is probably education, then I'm troubled about the future. I find that scarier than things like Fukushima and climate change."
Tom, I think your priorities are spot on. That the county council could pass the anti-GMO bill with the margins and near-fanatical support that it did really concerned me. Not whether someone wants to only eat organic food or only support permaculture or whatever, but that the powers-that-be would create legislation whose only basis is an anti-science denial of the facts of the matter and large numbers of people are good with that. Seems very similar to attitudes denying evolution or climate change, all based on ignoring large bodies of evidence and experiment in favor some ideology. It really does seem scary if this anti-science, ignore-the-facts faction starts writing more such laws.
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Thats amusing he groups colombus as a "genius"
The man was an admitted slave trader and pedophile.
Nothing to do with america or americans, and certainly undeserving of a national holiday on par with Mr. Kings - and made into a holiday after lobbying by the knights of colombus early in the 20th century.
Erik the red was the first white man to discover the americas. Colombus was purely motivated by self greed for gold and his twisted pedophillic perversions.
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Here we go again; Peteadams brands people against GMO as being anti science. Does being against Thalidomide (developed by scientists)make a person "anti science"?
Science cannot be good or bad, it's just science. Every product of science isn't automatically good either. DDT? Depleted Uranium? Silicon Breast implants? Butane Honey oil extraction? There's always room for debate, and branding someone as "anti science" because they disagree is disingenuous........
My opinion?
GMO
OMG
WTF?
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