When, not If lava crosses 130...

[cwoods61]

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[Guest]

Has anyone noticed the plume or smoke from this flow lately?. Has this flow stalled completely like some are saying?. Also read that the vent or crater has been swelling, and having more earthquakes since December(which crater, summit or Pu'u'o?).

[missydog1]

Just want to thank all of you who have posted links and information on this very important subject. This topic has been extremely educational.

gypsy, the USGS site always differentiates between activity at PuÔu OÔo and HalemaÔumaÔu, so next time you wonder which vent is referenced, just check the update, always current, always clear on what is going on where.

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/activity/kilaueastatus.php

The flow certainly is not progressing quickly, so thatÔs good.

[LaurelJ]

It appears it is not progressing ABOVE ground very quickly, but IMO it just means it has shifted underground, and where it pops out again is anybodies guess. I do think also watch the dying /burning trees in the forest above that will give us a good guess what's going on below, still moving HA/HPP way []

[kalakoa]

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If the flow continues for several years and if it follows the USGS projections, then south Puna will be cut off at some point.

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This would explain the lack of infrastructure investment by County and State:

1. Everthing will just be destroyed anyway;
2. at which time we get a Big Federal Bailout!

[LaurelJ]

Once the lava passing over the 130 cools off people will just start driving over it. Business as usual. Until that time we will have to use the Old Government road through the lower jungle. It's a rough ride but it can be done. Puna won't be cut off for long, unless the flow just stalls right on the road. I don't think many in Puna will leave even if they call for an evac. Look how long it to many in Kalapana to get out and that was even when their homes were in direct line of lava. You think a little lava over the 130 will cause people to just give up? I think NOT, Puna people are way more resourceful and resilient than that [:I]

[VancouverIslander]

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Originally posted by gypsy69

Has anyone noticed the plume or smoke from this flow lately?. Has this flow stalled completely like some are saying?. Also read that the vent or crater has been swelling, and having more earthquakes since December(which crater, summit or Pu'u'o?).

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The most recent picture on the photo and multimedia page indicate it's moving right along:

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/multimedia/?display=default

It had stalled briefly earlier in the year and then restarted back several kilometers back from the previous advance and is now back burning up forest. It seems to have started a third finger into the forest south of the previous two. Unfortunately, the flow map is not yet updated past Feb. 7th.

[unknownjulie]

The map just got updated, and it doesnt look good...

[snorkle]

Interestingly, The vast majority of the 200 or so homes lost to lava in Kalapana (1990's) were the houses that were insured. The insurance companies would only get involved if the homes burned, and policy holders had little choice but to watch them burn down.

Many residence didn't have insurance policies and easily had their homes moved out of the path of the lava. ($10,000 or so at the time).
I know of homes that were chainsawed into three sections, re-inforced with lumber, and move a mile or so up Hwy 130.

I agree that major development in lava zone 1 is foolish; But modest, modular homes(easy to move) wouldn't be a bad way to go. After all, this is what the Hawaiians have done for centuries in Puna Makai.

[bluesboy]

the Kahaualea II flow actually hasn't advanced that much in the past few months. It's active around the flow front, but it's difficult to get lava to move beyond it. Just compare the November map to the February map.