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Developers have found ways around CDPs (and zoning), and the nice folks at Planning say "well nothing we can do".
http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/sections...utiny.html
Given that a PUD is somehow magically not subject to the CDPs, how about the subdivisions just refactor themselves as PUDs?
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Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't they state that the development was planned/approved before the CDPs? Also aren't they now re-examining the development?
The subdivision idea is amusing, to add to it, what if we formed a greater association through the PUD that encompassed representation from all the subdivisions in puna!
Maybe not the way to do it, but we need to be able to communicate better and work together to accomplish our goals!
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The subdivisions were all approved before the CDPs too.
Puna subdivisions need to realize their "common cause" and unite, or they will continue to get "nothing" from County and State.
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Any suggestions oh comical leader? More to the point do you think it could happen without the support of our Puna county council members?
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Any effort will have to be in spite of the Council (and County, and State), they've managed to do basically nothing for decades.
It's long past time County stopped pretending that Planning isn't "by the developers, for the developers". If they could at least be honest, I might find some respect for them. Instead, "they" keep pretending that building codes are somehow important while the complete lack of infrastructure is "too big a problem to fix".
If forming a PUD means you can circumvent zoning/planning/codes, great, let's form a PUD that allows shacks -- they're already "allowing" it (because they "don't have resources" to enforce), so nobody's "losing" anything. In fact, it would save money on pointless enforcement.
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The subdivision idea is amusing, to add to it, what if we formed a greater association through the PUD that encompassed representation from all the subdivisions in puna!
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The real question is why is there even a Community Development Plan?
It should be pretty simple. There isn't going to be any development south of the East Rift ridge and probably south of HPP with the new lava flow projections. There will be people buying and building houses, different agriculture operations, small businesses, but in terms of any major industrial, factory, financial, resort, or any other community impact investments, the chance of those happening is virtually nil. Nobody is going to sink a huge investment into an area that has high risk of being totally cutoff for 20 years and beyond.
A Puna community development plan would be mostly applicable to the HPP-Kea'au-Shipman or North Puna, if you will. South Puna really needs no development plan.
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The real question is why is there even a Community Development Plan?
CDPs provide a valuable procedural framework that encourages public participation, after which the County, State, and "large local landowners" do whatever they want anyway.
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Originally posted by pahoated
The real question is why is there even a Community Development Plan?
Those of us that worked on the CDPs were not aware at time of launch that the movement for the CDP process was the result of a lawsuit filed by the Federal government against the state in which it was alleged that the State of Hawaii, in the disbursement of Federal Highway Funds, was only consulting the large land owners and not the communities or citizens at large. Guess who was getting the dollars?
Anyway the state tried to defend itself by claiming that the counties were their source of input for state road projects. That dragged the counties into it.
A "consent decree" was entered in which the state and counties promised the feds that for future development the communities would be consulted.
After a two year process involving several hundred people in Puna (me included) - which resulted in the Puna CDP and others- we were rather dismayed to learn this and to find out that while the consent decree required community input there was really nothing that the county was required to act on or even respect. Basically it was a case of "Okay, Now we have the community input and now we can ignore it".
So the end result is a continuance of plantation trickle down politics. There are occasions where it suits the county to use the CDP when it suits them on a case by case basis.
I think Harry Kim was sincere about the CDP process when it launched but Billy Kenoi could care less and operated behind the scenes to effectively neuter it.
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a lawsuit filed by the Federal government against the state in which it was alleged that the State of Hawaii, in the disbursement of Federal Highway Funds, was only consulting the large land owners and not the communities or citizens at large.
Fuel tax revenue is collected County-wide, but I only see new roads in Kona...
