Haoles and Friends

[Bullwinkle]

I was taught its all a value judgement - including the term ethics - its how we function -

[kalakoa]

"It's all about choices..."

[Guest]

I thought ethics was the internal rights and wrongs. AKA - Do not cause harm to others, do not kill, do not steal etc ?

[Delta9r]

Ethics relate to actions. Values relate to beliefs. Maybe in Florida it's different, or maybe I'm just a judgmental hick from the sticks, but this topic has degraded into something completely unrelated to "Haoles and Friends."

Of further concern is the tendency for some to refer to "racism" when what they really mean is "prejudice."
There is only one race of Human Beings, and that is the Human Race. I wish people would stop confusing race with ethnicity.
On many official forms there are questions about ethnicity yet labeled as "race." WTF? I am of the Human Race, and that's what I always write in place of "Other."

That said, I myself am a dyed in the wool racist. I hate most insects, rodents, and many birds.

"Life is labor, and all that is good in life comes from that labor..."

[punafish]

In regard to the issue of being politically correct...as someone who grew up on the north side of Chicago where my Irish, Italian, German, Polish, Nicaraguan and Japanese friends routinely called each other "racist names" and made brutal fun of each other, it's kind of endearing to see Hawaii folks tease each other about their ethnic backgrounds, including when the pasty white haole-boy is the target. (Um, that would be me.) Even my hapa-haole kids make fun of me and call me names. And when I call them racists they laugh even harder. The haole is outnumbered in my house.

Can those same words be used to hurt? Of course. But with friends, in context, it's fun, and transports me back to a less pc time (sometimes known as "the good old days"). Take this with a grain of salt and 2 aspirin, but my take is that locals don't "play according to Hoyle" when it comes to pc correctness, so probably best to downplay any pc baggage a transplant brings with them. (But if any locals on this forum disagree with me, then please believe THEM because they know better...this is just an opinion based on my personal, limited observations over the last 8 years.)

To Delta9r's point on "race," here's a related video a business associate put together: Race Off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KJWKGPA9A

[oceangirl]

If you read lead and bead they rhyme. So do read and lead, but lead and read do not, and neither does lead and bead. English is the messed up language if you ask me.

[Guest]

Wait. Lead and Bead DO rhyme !

So does Read.

[oceangirl]

It depends they do and don't.

[Guest]

true, lead and read can sound like bed

or they can sound like Bead

[Carey]

Lead the pack (v)- lead in the pack (noun) neither rhyme
Read the book (present) - Read the book (past) same spellings, different meanings& sounds, based on context

Why ESL is not as easy as some would think

so... git sum grin's (silent d implied) wit sum friens n no matta..n what are ya?