Where is it safe?

[PaulW]

Carol, I use both MS and Apple products so its your assumptions that are a bit off, not mine!

[kalakoa]

quote:

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People should use what works for them and quit making value judgements about other people based on what laptop they pull out of their computer bag.

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I use the "best tool for the job" as much as possible; my issues with Microsoft (and/or Apple) are with their business practices, not their technologies. In the "real world", everyone ends up using Windows for something.

That said ... I also expect the tools I use to comply with the existing standards, instead of being proprietary and non-interoperable in a way that makes my data less portable; these malformed posts are an excellent example.

KathyH's mac is probably doing UTF-8 when it should be plain ASCII or at least ISO8859.

[missydog1]

well, I went over all my settings and they looked normal, but I enabled olelo Hawaiian which I didnÔt know was an option.

IÔm busy today but IÔll look at it and check your suggestions.
IÔm certainly not going to run a copy and paste through Notepad or something. 99% of the article and the entire point of the article was legible, and more importantly, I linked it so if you canÔt handle it you need only click and read it in the original format.

[bluesboy]

i would guess as it's an issue with one of your browsers settings. since you are copying and pasting articles from other sources, that probably look okay on your computer. all that info is being funneled through your browser. some browser charset setting.

the question is KathyH - do apostrophes come up looking like an upper case norwegian O when you view your punaweb posts?

[missydog1]

I see it now that I'm reading on my phone, but not on my computer monitor.
Also not on other websites, and not on Facebook, just Punaweb. I read those other sites on my phone and any posts I made on the computer look fine.

I'll look into it later, thanks for suggestions.

[Bullwinkle]

reading around the web - maine safest - we come in at about #8

[ri3ck]

a completely safe and predicable world would be a boring life for me.....
just saying.

[Bullwinkle]

so why here on bread and butter puna instead of costa rica, panama or colombia - if it wasnt for the lack of property rights i'd be back there in a heartbeat

[Obie]

March 27, 2014
Two weeks of terror in Kau The devastating events of 1868

March marks the anniversary of the most recent eruption of Mauna Loa, which began on March 25, 1984. It also reminds us of a much more destructive series of events that affected the Island of Hawaii—the 16 days of earthquakes in 1868 that included a tsunami, landslide, and eruption in the District of Kau.

As with many Mauna Loa eruptions, unusual activity was first observed at Mokuweoweo, the volcano's summit caldera. On Friday morning, March 27, 1868, people from Kawaihae to South Kona saw a column of smoke rising from the summit. Pele's hair (lava filaments) carried on the wind confirmed a volcanic source of the smoke.

That evening, numerous earthquakes occurred, culminating in a strong and damaging earthquake early Saturday afternoon, March 28. By modern measure, this earthquake is estimated to have been about magnitude 7.

The earthquakes, which continued for days, were frequent and severe in Kona, Kau, and Hilo. Between 50 and 300 quakes were felt each day, with the most reported from Kau. In some areas, it was described as nearly continuous ground motion.

The seismic activity came to a head on Thursday afternoon, April 2, when a violent earthquake (at least magnitude-7.9) rattled the island and beyond. Located beneath South Hawaii, the quake was felt as far away as Kauai and stopped clocks on Oahu.

In Kau, the destruction was nearly complete. People who had been standing or on horseback were knocked to the ground. Those sitting on the ground had to brace themselves with their hands and feet to remain upright as the powerful shaking went on for several minutes. All stone structures—buildings and walls—were thrown down.

The shaking caused several landslides in Kau, within Kilauea caldera, in Hilo, and along the Homakua coast. The collapse of a cliff in Hilo caused one death, and a large mud slide in Wood Valley (north of Pahala) buried 31 people in a matter of minutes.

As the people of Kau were recovering from the earthquake, they noticed the ocean receding from the coastline. Over the next several hours, at least 8 waves washed ashore, razing coastal villages and carrying people and animals into the sea. The tsunami, estimated to be more than 6 m (20 feet) high in Kau, caused damage from South Point (Kalae) to Cape Kumukahi (Kapoho), destroying more than 100 structures and taking 47 lives. The tsunami was detected several hours later on the west coast of the United States.

But the devastation was not over. Strong earthquakes (aftershocks) continued to shake the island. On Tuesday evening, April 7, a fissure opened low on the Southwest Rift Zone of Mauna Loa, disgorging voluminous amounts of lava. The lava fountains jetted to heights of several hundred meters (yards) and produced lava flows that rushed southward to the sea (a distance of 13 km, or 8 miles) in 3.5 hours. The fountains also produced copious amounts of tephra that blanketed Kau with deposits of cinder and Pele's hair several centimeters (inches) deep. Vog shrouded the islands of Hawaii, Maui, and Oahu.

The lava flow was inactive by Saturday, April 11, and the earthquakes, though less frequent, were still occurring at a rate of 2–3 per day several months later. In fact, recent studies suggest that we are still recording aftershocks of the 1868 main shock!

Using modern analysis, scientists have hypothesized that the southeastern part of the island, from Kapoho to Kalae, moved seaward and subsided several feet during the April 2, 1868, earthquake.

At the time, American missionaries and Hawaiians alike said that there was no record of such devastating events in the history of these islands. But the geologic processes that caused the 1868 events continue to produce similar, less devastating, movements of the island's southeast flank in the form of large earthquakes, such as the magnitude-7.7 Kalapana quake in 1975 and the steady seaward creep of Kilauea's south flank.

HVO continues to track these movements and to study historical events, like the 1868 Kau earthquakes, landslides, tsunami, and eruption, for the clues they provide for our future.

Cleaned up the okinas

[missydog1]

Thanks for posting that Obie. How awe-inspiring and scary it would be too see that type of event.

Note: not to go off topic again, but to those who were speculating about my computer (all settings normal, went over all I could find), Obie's post is displaying oddly in the same way. Maybe display issues are fuel for some other topic. []

As I said before, my posts display just fine on a couple other forums and sites where I have made posts.