Maui GMO protest

[Obie]

My point is that there have never been any " human feeding studies " for any kind of food other than the trial and error method that our ancestors used.

[Bullwinkle]

just a 5000 year track record that was pre gmo - all rules are off - we do not know what we are eating is the way I see it

Commercial use of GMO comes in what about 1999?

[Guest]

The world is changing, as slow as it is. People are becoming awake. Consciousness is dawning.

part of all this change is that people want to go back to being human. Humans need to stop acting like a virus and more like humans. Part of that is not consuming all this ****, that is considered "food".

Its not food. I dont want it, and I want the RIGHT to know what is being put in my food. I am not a prisoner in a concentration camp that just eats what is thrown at him. I want the choice.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

The first commercial GMO product was the Flav Savr Tomato in 1994, it was breed to have fresh ripened tomato flavor.
The demand outstripped the supply, stores sold out all of their Flav Savr Tomaotes before the other types.
Then someone claimed it was deadly, even though no one died, or even became ill from eating them:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/boomin....html?_r=0

[kalakoa]

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Its not food. I dont want it, and I want the RIGHT to know what is being put in my food. I am not a prisoner in a concentration camp that just eats what is thrown at him. I want the choice.

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Doesn't much matter -- you don't really have any rights, and we're all just prisoners in a concentration camp -- instead of iron bars, they now use banking "reform" and anti-terrorism "regulations" to keep the unwashed masses in check.

I wish I were just having a bad attitude for the sake of argument, but reality has long since surpassed any paranoid delusions I might once have had.

Case in point: the corporates can't be bothered to label food for origin and/or GMO content -- it's a violation of their First Amendment right to "free speech" -- nor are you allowed to state such obvious truth, as it's obviously "slanderous".

Enjoy what you can for as much time as we have left; protest at your peril.

[Guest]

That is a sad truth Kalakoa, but I agree.

With that being said, I will qoute MLK -

"Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent about things that matter."

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

"Our lives begin to require a nap in the afternoon, when we start to make a racket over things that don't matter."
- Anonymous

[Wao nahele kane]

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Originally posted by David M

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Originally posted by Wao nahele kane

"Natural??? Sounds like a form of human engineering to me. Natural would be you plant a lemon tree, a lime tree and then on it's own some combined product develops."
Natural simply means occurring in nature. Trees do naturally graft to one another under rare circumstances, it occurs more frequently amongst the branches of a single specimen but also occurs between dissimilar specimens. It sometimes occurs through abrasions (but not limited to) induced by winds amongst branches that fuse to one another at the abrasion points remaining in contact after the winds cease.
Grafting is a natural process of the combined specimens, the cuts/abrasions/compression maybe induced naturally or by human intervention.


If you've never observed natural grafts in nature, there are many photos available on-line. http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Oceani...142562.htm

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Thanks for making my point - nature, not human caused or assisted, even if a grandfather.
David

Ninole Resident
Please visit vacation.ninolehawaii.com

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Evidently you missed the point if you think that made your point. If it occurs in nature, it's natural. Grafting is natural, period.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

The ironic thing about this entire discussion is that when the Flaz Savr Tomato was introduced, Calgene offered to do everything the anti GMO people now are asking:
* Oversight
* FDA Approval
* Clear Labeling

Then, the uproar began. Calgene was a group of researchers, not businessmen. They didn't want to get into a fight, they wanted to do research. So they sold their business and patents to Monsanto. Monsanto saw what happened when Calgene was completely transparent with the public, so they took the opposite approach. Which is where we are now.

If Calgene had been allowed to publish their findings, get FDA approval, and label their product, their example most likely would have been followed by other companies when they entered the market with GMO products. FDA approved, clearly labeled products.

[kalakoa]

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FDA approved, clearly labeled products.

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Oh, you mean like liquor and cigarettes?