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Pets & Vets
#1
Time to consider our pets we are bringing and will the same foods be available and how will there costs compare to mainland prices.
Where is the best place to shop for pet products.

Any reccomendations on Vets, there seems to be quite a few in the phone book. Our biggest concern is for emergency services.

Mahalo

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#2
When comparison shopping for friskies and Purina cat chow, we found Walmart to be similarly prices to CA Walmart's if that helps.

As for vet care we plan on going to Barking Kennels and look for suggestions, per our vet here the kennels have a vested interest in good vets to refer to and will give good recommendations. PLamont had a suggestion quite a while back perhaps she will re-post here.


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#3
Dave,

What do you have in the way of pets?

You don't mention what type, species of pets that you are bringing, but many vets lean towards specialty, so you might mention what you have. Also the same for food. Hard to answer if you don't know what you are comparing to. Do you have rats, pigs, birds, dogs, cats, horse, gerbils, large animal, small animal, too numerous to list etc.?

Some various thoughts surrounding this:
Vicki Boening in HPP and her husband with another person own a vet clinic in Hilo.
She has many turtle/tortoise so I am sure they are very good at knowing about that species. The vet that works for them, I thought specialized in small animals. If you are bringing exotics, I read about some and have kept those names, but would not search for them unless I knew it would be beneficial and you mention the need here.

The things I would not be without even having worked in a vet clinic surgical unit would be a good veterinary book pertaining to the spices that you own. If you own dogs or cats, the authors/books that I have found beneficial to others without the medical terminology is Dog/Cat Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook (3rd ed. for Dog not sure, for cat, since I don't own one)by James Giffin MD and Liisa Carlson DVM Copyright 2000 I got it at Walmart.com online ordering for less than 20, at Petsmart it is $30. I have a bunch of other ones too, but can't recommend not knowing the species. Just mention dog and cat since those are the most common pets. ))

In any case whether you live in a rural environment or not, it is still a great idea to study and keep current on what is the best care and husbandry of your particular pet. There are online resources like the Merk Manual which you can also reference things quickly, but does not go into as much detail as owning the books. Great search engines too for looking into finding out what to do in case of emergency if you copy them ahead of time and post in a folder that you have for your pet. So you know where to quickly reference this ahead of time. For instance, if your pet eats things from the trash, like my new dog does. I try to remember when I am cooking to keep everything towards the bottom, then empty it when I am done, but he is quick and very observant. He is also a very good daddy to his new pups! He ate onion that was cooked that I threw away a couple days ago. I gave him 5 Tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide and he threw them up, the books list this, telling you amount to give per weight of your pet and it is harmless to them, they tell you how often and how to administer to your pets so that they do not choke. Eating something that they are not supposed to is one of the biggest reasons a dog sees a vet. Usually you can take care of many of these type of emergency things at home. Like getting one of those Buffo/Cane toads in their mouths. Rinse and rinse like 5 minutes until the animals gets all the mucous out of the mouth, if found early enough, if the animal is showing other symptoms and you did not see it with the toad in its mouth, evaluate it to see if it is showing signs of the toxin. Then you would decide whether to seek more care by calling a vet or if you cannot, then reading further about it. But this is a common thing on the island, so moving there you should know and study what to do for your pet because it is common for the area. Mosquito's carry Dengue Fever at times, scorpions or centipedes give some nasty bites along with spiders, bees etc. Find out ahead of time what the most com mom threats are to the area just like a person would do for themselves and take care to learn what to do.

There are also so many great lists that one can belong to to help keep current and ask questions of long time seasoned members who give great advice and would help in an emergency if you were not able to get to a clinic if one were not available and help you to know what to do. So it might mean keeping a trusted mentor/sources phone number and asking if you can call them too. If help is not readily available on the island. It is better to learn what to do in case of trauma or if an animal is throwing up after ingesting something and be prepared wether you have a clinic available or not, it is just part and parcel of owning a pet, just like a kid. You can help prevent their death or more serious injury by knowing what you can do before you take them to an emergency clinic. They are dependant upon you for their health and welfare.

Hey, maybe we should start a pet chat forum Mella!!? I know you are busy getting ready to start your moving. Maybe there is one in our future.....

Lucy


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#4
Thanks Lucy for all your insight we actually have dogs but I started the topic thinking of everyone that has any kind of pet. Perhaps those that live on the island have personal experiences to share with the forum as well as opinions concerning medical services and pet stores. You should actually consider moving to the Island yourself and becoming The Auntie for all the animals I know I would love to know of someone who could care for our furry friends should an emergency arise that would call us away. Perhaps also there are those nursing homes or inpatient care services that advocate therapy dogs. Our Great Pyrenees, Akela loves to help folks any way she can whether it be sheep watching or providing bedside manner to the convalescing elderly. Also perhaps there will be discussions about best places to socialize your pet, or parks that allow pets. Anyway this was and is my thinking for the topic, hope this better helps you and everyone else help me and others who are concerned for their pets arrival to a strange place. I not sure but I think they perhaps won't find things quite as exciting as we would therefore anything I can start doing now for their arrival would be in their best interest like being sure the same foods are available, or starting them on those that are... Your mention of certain insects, toads and perhaps there are plants one should make sure not to let them eat. Our dogs are country freegrazers and love to eat anything that fits in their mouth.

Why can't you start your chat idea or an Island Pet Column right here on the forum and possibly become the animal liaison for Island NewComers. Smile)

Aloha HADave


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#5
Aloha HA Dave & Pet People,

When you need an emergency vet, probably the best one on the island is Seska Versylus in Keaau. She is who we take our pets to when it is serious.

For pet food, we get our dog, cat and chicken food from Del's feedstore in Hilo. The Del's High Protein (Del's Red) is the only food that keeps our dogs coats shiny. It beats out all the other expensive food.

Del's is also good for fencing materials.

A hui hou!
Cathy


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#6
Thanks Cathy, our pups are very important to us and their needs seem to come before my own some// most-times. Smile

HADave

PS still yet another reason why I'm happy to have chosen The Acres as our new home, seems like everything we will need is just around the corner...Yeah!

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HEY Dave! We go to Dr. Mina at the East Haw. pet clinic because unlike the vet in Kea'au he is can do x-rays and the full deal. Also so far he hasn't allowed my terrier to fall off of the examining table. A quick f.y.i. in the strange things dogs eat department, last summer I spent over $500.00 testing my dog for everything under the sun and thought I was going to have to get him put down because he was acting downright crazy! We tried puppy downers, full blood work-up, x-rays (hence the change to Dr. Mina Dr. V doesn't have an x-ray) you name it. He walked like he was drunk, ever seen a dog stagger UP the stairs? Come to find out he was getting wasted on rotting mountain apples and probably a few fallen papaya!! So if Bowzer gets weird when there is a lot of fruit on the trees, try monitering where he eats first. Le$$on learned!!! P.S. He's fine now and back to our lovable Bear. pj

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#8
Oh PJ, that is priceless!!!!

You got that dog enrolled in AA??

PunaCat

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#9
Too funny,pj!!!

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#10
Thanks PJ we have a couple of free grazers ourselves and can't wait to see what they find to consume there. They stop at nothing if it fits in their mouths down the hatch it goes. They just recently stripped the bark off my wife's prize Gingko tree, you'd think it would help to remember that we don't want them to do such things...Smile) Our concerns are sincere though one has a torn stifle joint ligament the other is neurologically challenged and is the reason the first has a blown knee. So I'm afraid they will need more medical attention than we will. Perhaps you can post the address for that vet and I presume the phone # is in the book. thanks for your input, from the girls

HADave

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