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If it is gangs you have zero laws that will help you. even if you shoot a trespassing gang member you will go to jail so there is that aspect. You cant even have a taser gun, stupidest state laws EVER
not to mention the local cops are mostly worried about speeding tickets and meeting their monthly quota.
Again the logistical value of the Big Island for a drug cartel is Zero.
Maybe a local gang loosely affiliated with the mainlanders is possible but, how are the sending reinforcements by boat? and for what? lol
a turf war on the big island would almost be comedy relief, where are they going to run to. Copycats at best IMO
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At the top of Glenwood rd there was a ranch owned by a known cartel Lieutenant. It was raided and seized by DHS in like 2008? He was Pam Lamont's neighbor. Close to $3 million in equipment was removed and the property was sold. So yes, the cartels are here. The cartels follow the AG workers who live and work here picking crops.
If I was a gang leader I would see big opportunity on the Big Island.
You have no rival gangs.
Cops that don't care.
Large amount of meth addicts.
Seems perfect to set up shop to me.
Lets get those sneakers down. If we touch them with a pole we will get electrocuted yeah ?
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Meth doesn't discriminate, black or white, rich or poor, cop or civilian. If you are an unlucky soul to be addicted to it... Drug abuse is just another disease that breaks up relationships, family and communities.
You don't need to be rich to do meth, you can just steal or scam the government, friends, family, anyone to make a buck. You can sell your food stamps or just wait for SSI checks to come in the mail. Meth! It's grand! Sigh.
Back to the shoes, the shoes I see thrown over lines are usually thrown over the cable/phone lines. They normally aren't high on the electrical lines. I think it's done because the kids are board and got a new pair of shoes, so instead of tossing them in the trash, tie the laces together and see how long it takes to get em over the line. Probably a few tries.
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We have a lot of kids who have now been on vacation for over a month, and they are getting bored and starting to find unproductive and destructive things to do, like the kids reported earlier who were taking down stop signs. School starts the beginning of August, and things will settle back down. I would love to start one of those Puna non profits Pahoated is ragging on over in the politics threads to provide safe and sane activities at the Hui for our 2500 school age kids who live here in the Park with nothing to do every summer and vacation. But, I'm afraid RJ and Sativa might call the IRS on me if I don't file my paperwork just right, while also working a full time job (like most people who want to help their communities.)
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Interesting responses. Big city where I came from the shoes meant that a gang claimed that area as their home turf. Of course this meant drugs were also available as well. I just wondered if it was the same here. I have pair of old shoes I think I'll toss over the wire in front of my house as this is now my "turf". [}
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If your not into shoes over a wire than take them down but no gang that is a real threat throws shoes over a wire. Ms13 is like the El Salvadorian mafia at this point they are huge and organized and are doing more mafia style business than anything. They aren't throwing shoes over a wire. It most cases shoes over a wire is just kids being kids. I guess it could be a little crew of bullies but I highly doubt it's a sign of any gang activity. This is coming from someone who has lived in Brooklyn, Chicago, Boston and Atlanta over the past 15 years and in areas with allot of gang activity. I barely ever see shoes over a wire or gangs making any effort to do mysterious signs or signifiers. Sure some tag walls or whatever but even that is rare these days. Generally the gangsters that are able to maintain any type of presence in a community stay as inconspicuous as possible.
