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Candidate Eligibility
opihikao,
I really do understand your point and your desire to have campaigns talk about people's strengths and good record. You have a really good heart and solid ethics.
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Originally posted by opihikao

I'd rather hear what makes a candidate "eligible" to serve as the voice of the people. What are the individual's values, what are the goals, a good record in life is always helpful (ie. community service, volunteering to help keiki and kupuna, etc.). Most important, is their message credible due to their personal integrity?
Yes, I want to hear that too. I don't want to hear made-up dirt either.

But this shadiness is not made up. The nastiness to other candidates and to voters at the roast is not made up.

So the question is, what do you do when a candidate looks likely to win a race and the front of ethics is really just a front? Do I/we stand by and watch it happen out of reluctance to say anything critical?

In this day and age of media reliance, how easy is it to get voters to believe you are ethical, honest, grass roots, the answer to everything through a good campaign, whether or not you have the character to back it up? Pretty easy, if no one steps up to say otherwise.

Honestly, it's not fun or easy speaking up against someone who is frequently threatening (and filing) lawsuits, AND who controls a form of press and controls what comments can be made to what she publishes. She's an intimidating person to speak up against, to be honest.

You know, Tiffany is a politician's daughter. Her father was a State House Representative and he's her hero (which is not wrong). I'm sure she's had her eye on running for office for quite a while.

So her record in the community has to I think be viewed with a little cynicism. She's been preparing her political qualifications for years now by running this and that and starting this and that and being in the public eye constantly. Some good motives, I want to believe, sincerity in some issues, I grant. But she's also demonstrated that she likes power and she likes to run things, and she gets really nasty to people who interfere and disagree.

There's a whole list of people she has gone after: Zendo, Gregor, Yagong, Jamae Kawauchi, Emily Na'ole, and I can't even keep track. Rob Tucker even.

She's not a nice benign person who only says good about people. She makes a habit of tearing people down and publicly shaming them on her blog. (And I don't mean myself; there are many on the list.)

And now it comes out that the ethical candidate was not akamai about her finances and won't admit it and won't apologize for it, but shrugs it off.

So I agree that it is important to honor the good a person does, but not at the cost of brushing the bad under the rug and handing an unfit person the keys to help run the County. No.
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Originally posted by leilanidude

The Pahoa Village property is zoned commercial. As such, it is not a residence and cannot be claimed as a residence.


Commercial zoning does not preclude having a residence. It is not uncommon for legal residences to exist in commercially zoned areas.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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Originally posted by leilanidude

http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_di...0110100000

The Pahoa Village property is zoned commercial. As such, it is not a residence and cannot be claimed as a residence.

It really doesn't matter, because she did not live there, certainly not with the intent to reside there permanently, which is the voter residency requirement. The law is clear that if you work one place and you live with your family elsewhere, the place you live with your family is where you reside, not your place of work.

Voter Registration doesn't have the manpower to look into everyone's claim of residency, and when you have a PO Box on your ID, there's no obvious tell.

That's why there is an affidavit, where one is warned that a false statement carries penalties of law. That's supposed to keep people honest. In this case it wasn't sufficient. The term for this is Voter Fraud. It's a class C felony.

There's no basis at all to even discuss some validity to her District 4 registration. You can't find any quote or interview from Tiffany herself claiming to live at the Surf Shop. She went on record this week that she has lived with her family in Hawaiian Acres since she got married. Never lived at the Surf Shop. Maybe spent nights there here and there, but that does not count.

ed. to respond also to Rob's post.
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Came across this story and thought some how it applied -

"Mom: I didn't know boy was dead until smell set in"

http://news.yahoo.com/mom-didnt-know-boy...55617.html
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Long time District 5 resident, first time poster.

I would like to pose a question to Sativa Sultan if I may:

You claim on your voter registration to live in Kehena Beach Estates, at an address that is the abandoned purple house, otherwise known as the "haunted house." It has not been inhabited for years.

You and your partner, RJ, who is running against Tiffany in Council District 5, claim a homeowners exemption as joint tenants, for a house in Seaview that is vacant. You pay a lousy $58 per year because of building and land exemptions. And that is the address RJ claims is her residence in voter registration records. And yet no one resides there and hasn't resided there in a long time, at least 200 calendar days. Where do you girls live? Looks like the ultimate bait and switch. Time to focus on cleaning up your own affairs.


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No, we don't have to clean up our affairs everything is just fine. You are looking at old information why don't you try new information like my current voter registration card and certainly I didn't change it to vote in another district. Besides that you can always register a complaint.
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Originally posted by KathyH

I believe she is in no way suitable for or prepared for public office, going by her past actions and her conduct that is on display for all to see. I do not hate her. Life is too short for hating people because we disagree with them.

I lack respect for her choices and her mode of operating, and the way she treats people, but lack of respect is not at all the same as hatred in my book.



I would like to ask KathyH a few questions as well:

I understand your point. You have said it ad nauseum.

Over and over. In each and every post you make and in each and every reply you make to other posters.

My question is why?

Why, does a District 1 resident spend so much time making her sole single point about a candidate in a District you don't live in and cant vote for over and over and over and over?

And yet at the same time, never once, has offered any criticism of any other candidate? Even the one District 5 candidate that had a very public melt down. Not a word.

Why are you doing this? What is your motive? And why do you have this motive?

I can say this sounds like an obsession with you.

In fact, I would say that what was once being done to you by a certain cartoonist, has been replaced by you doing virtually the same thing to Tiffany.

Which is so ironic now isn't it?





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Wow! if this is really true then Sativa and RJ are truly the most prolific hypocrites around, They, or at least Sativa (the spokesperson for the campaign) have been slinging lots of mud around particularly at Tiffany.

If this is in fact true then you two really owe a huge apology to the Punaweb community for malevolently stirring the pot, and to the residents of Puna District for perpetuating the rumor that everyone who lives in Puna is crazy.

Shame on you!
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steve 1 quote:
" slinging lots of mud around particularly at Tiffany."

If you think it is mud it's more like super glue. The accusations that we are making about Tiffany and her character, are based on documents, you can find for your self in the public records. For five years, that means two elections, it appears that Tiffany lived in one district and voted in another. In September 2013, Tiffany re-register in Hawaiian Acres around 6 months before she announced her bid for county council. We are not slinging mud. It is the facts of her voter registration records. We have presented the facts and we are just following the trail.

If you want to throw some mud at us based on something you read on the punaweb then I invite you and anyone else to make a complaint.
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DiscussTruth quote:
"And yet at the same time, never once, has offered any criticism of any other candidate?"


That is because all of the other candidates are wonderful people except the candidate, who is the supposes frontrunner, who spent almost $30,000 on her campaign with $17,000 of it coming from an Oahu P.A.C. Tiffany had a roast which was described as a drunken foul mouth affair where her and others made racial slurs and generally dogged all the candidates except for herself.

You can tear into RJ...you can tear into KathyH yet it won't change anything. Well good luck, lets see if Tiffany can shake off 3 investigations just like her buddy, the sustainable poacher, Graham Ellis.
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