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" Boy if they could diminish hurricanes through seeding or chemtrails or micro-sprayers or whatever, I'd make my happier than poo. If true why didn't kill the last three hurricanes I suffered through?"
Nice kind of fractal pattern there, it clearly must be geo-engineering, Bob's evidence is so clear, and it couldn't possibly be cirrus clouds forming at the boundary of very dry air to the west and extremely moist air to the east at upper levels. Simply couldn't be, could it?
Nice demonstration of the boundary can be seen in water vapour images on the MKWC site, http://mkwc.ifa.hawaii.edu/satellite/ , and then click on the third from the left in the water vapour imagery. Go down and click on Java in the Select Animation Style line. I could give a link to the movie, but it's a huge URL and will update over time, so you have to be quick!
You'll need Java as well of course, but the boundary is very dramatic. It's fairly obvious what's going on, water is freezing out into ice particles as it hits a boundary layer.
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PS. Carey's link shows pretty much the same dramatic boundary. Thanks, Carey. I'm used to using the MKWC site!
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Julio has just been upgraded to Hurricane Julio. Will be updated on the NHC link at 11PM
ADDED: HURRICANE Julios' first discussion:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIA...0851.shtml
Iselle discussion was not updated at 11PM. but the advisories & Wind Speed Pro were:
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/cphc/tcpages/ISELLE.php
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So I'm a little confused with Julio. I'm looking at the latest NHC release from a few minutes ago. It has Julio tracking a little north of the islands, which is good.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics...ml?5-daynl
But if I look at the images for the wind speed probabilities (hurricane, 50-kt and tropical storm winds) they all still point directly at the Big Island. Not sure I understand this unless wind speeds are expected to be much higher far south of the center of Julio.
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Some of the debate so far.
From kander:
"Annular eh? hmm. that means if it peaks today by the time it gets here it will still be category 2. Thats a game changer on its current course."
From Bob:
"This is geo engineering pure and observable on this frame 05:30 pm PDT, Tue 05 Aug 2014 [...]"
From ElysianWort:
"Yea Bananahead good info. Most of us kamaainas know though that "the mountains are sacred. Blessed be Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea for keeping us safe and prayers so those mountain's safety shield continues."
From ElysianWort (in another hurricane thread):
"Thanks to Mauna loa and Mauna kea they won't hit us. Just the rain and some gusts. Everyone frenzy stocking for nothing here on the big island. Other islanders different story."
I'm just so curious to find out how this all works out...
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ADDED: over the last few water vapor images on Hurricane Iselle, a
Visible eye has again formed, as the storm center dipped slightly south into warmer water on its' westerly track....
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/tpac/flash-wv.html
Tom, I think all of us are hoping that these storms do what storms have always done in the past & do not visit Hawaii Island, but I am trying to stay advised (based on years of vacation/volunteer work assisting on a research boat in the Caribbean....) and prepared....
Hurricanes are notorious for doing devious plot twists (in the Caribbean, many times the path will loop back on itself...) so even the best forecasters are left trying to match what is happening with what has happened in the past.... put in some odd things like warmer water & annular form...and that adds sooo many additional calculations!
Knock on wood, I have never had to weather a direct Hurricane hit, but have been within the projected path many summers...& have seen the prep islands that are constantly under the path go through.. some don't do anything, other places have binders of prep, based on distance, projected path & intensity... I gravitate toward the binder people, wishing I could be a do nothing person (ah... the diversity of the ants vs. the grasshoppers!)
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics...0#contents
10% probability of 50knot+ winds. Make of that what you will.
Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by TomK
"Boy if they could diminish hurricanes through seeding or chemtrails or micro-sprayers or whatever, I'd make my happier than poo. If true why didn't kill the last three hurricanes I suffered through?"
Nice kind of fractal pattern there, it clearly must be geo-engineering, Bob's evidence is so clear, and it couldn't possibly be cirrus clouds forming at the boundary of very dry air to the west and extremely moist air to the east at upper levels. Simply couldn't be, could it?
Nice demonstration of the boundary can be seen in water vapour images on the MKWC site, http://mkwc.ifa.hawaii.edu/satellite/ , and then click on the third from the left in the water vapour imagery. Go down and click on Java in the Select Animation Style line. I could give a link to the movie, but it's a huge URL and will update over time, so you have to be quick!
You'll need Java as well of course, but the boundary is very dramatic. It's fairly obvious what's going on, water is freezing out into ice particles as it hits a boundary layer.
20 or 30 line straight cirrus clouds - aww come on.
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quote:
Originally posted by Carey
ADDED: over the last few water vapor images on Hurricane Iselle, a
Visible eye has again formed, as the storm center dipped slightly south into warmer water on its' westerly track....
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/tpac/flash-wv.html
Tom, I think all of us are hoping that these storms do what storms have always done in the past & do not visit Hawaii Island, but I am trying to stay advised (based on years of vacation/volunteer work assisting on a research boat in the Caribbean....) and prepared....
Hurricanes are notorious for doing devious plot twists (in the Caribbean, many times the path will loop back on itself...) so even the best forecasters are left trying to match what is happening with what has happened in the past.... put in some odd things like warmer water & annular form...and that adds sooo many additional calculations!
Knock on wood, I have never had to weather a direct Hurricane hit, but have been within the projected path many summers...& have seen the prep islands that are constantly under the path go through.. some don't do anything, other places have binders of prep, based on distance, projected path & intensity... I gravitate toward the binder people, wishing I could be a do nothing person (ah... the diversity of the ants vs. the grasshoppers!)
Interestingly ,at this image yesterday (07:30 pm PDT, Mon 04 Aug)
2014) the eye had well (as in good)re-formed, however I had run out of time and figured I would just wait and see if anyone posted on it.
Thanks for that loop, it has a broader view of that area of the Hemisphere and has better depiction by colors of what's going on.
Also I would say that sequential imaging is far superior to single frame references - you can see the changes happening as the time passes and as a result it is not static which reveals nothing
regarding movement and direction.
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