HVO website says the flow was inactive today!

[SBH]

Crack flow and gas sampling? Not sure if we need Civil Defense or Kaopectate.

[unknownjulie]

Yes, we have entered the twilight zone, and the exact point when I realized this was when the statement said, "The pad is still warm"- and then I went to the infrared photos and realized that the area that is 390 degrees does not show up- BUT the lava pad does. In other words, the lava pad must be "greater than 390 degrees", but HVO was using the word "warm". See, I think that volcanologists must use the English language a bit differently than the rest of us.

[bluesboy]

Crackatoa to Pahoa!

[DanielP]

It sure seems as though the CD and HVO folks are really playing this down. I assume to avoid a panic. If I was in (what appears to me) that flow's path, I think that I would be securing a storage locker and maybe start relocating hard-to-move uninsured items in the near future.

[missydog1]

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Originally posted by unknownjulie

In other words, the lava pad must be "greater than 390 degrees", but HVO was using the word "warm". See, I think that volcanologists must use the English language a bit differently than the rest of us.

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lol, julie. It's all relative I guess. Hot lava flowing can be 1100 to 1600 degrees F, and over 2000 degrees F at the source, so yeah, 400 degrees is only 25-33% of what it had been. [:0]

Kathy

[DanielP]

From the HVO maps it looks like the flow has advanced 1.5 miles in 5 days. Seems like the cracks are helping the flow accelerate.

[terracore]

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Originally posted by DanielP

It sure seems as though the CD and HVO folks are really playing this down.

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When I heard the civil defense message on the radio the impression I got was that they were most interested in keeping people from trying to go see the flow, due to the dangerous terrain in the area.

[snorkle]

Daniel says;
"If I was in (what appears to me) that flow's path, I think that I would be securing a storage locker and maybe start relocating hard-to-move uninsured items in the near future."

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I don't know if I'd actually be moving stuff yet, but thinking about an evacuation plan sure would be a good idea.

In Kalapana, in the 1990's there were about 200 homes consumed by the lava. These homes weren't burned because they didn't have time to move them; They burned because their insurance policies covered fire, but not moving them. The owners of these burned houses had plenty of time to evacuate possessions(I even know a local video store owner who managed to increase his coverage significantly at the last minute). There were dozens of homes saved by moving because they didn't have insurance. Another reason some burned was that they were tied to a slab, instead of "Post and Pier" constructed.

Hint;
Lava zone 1; Post and Pier good, Slab bad.(Unless heavily insured and not emotionally attached to home)

[unknownjulie]

How many feet per day was the Kalapan flow moving?

[bluesboy]

Re: keeping people away from the current flow front - At this point, that's realistically the biggest danger.

Not to downplay the impact this flow could have on some of the residents of Kaohe Homesteads, but the significant impact of this flow won't occur until it reaches hwy 130. A flow in Kaohe will affect 10s of people. A flow across hwy 130 will affect 10s of thousands of people.