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L.A. Times> TMT breaks ground
#21
Without evidence of your qualifications it's pretty obvious you aren't going to be considered.

I would bring that evidence to the interview and present it to the hiring manager, if given the opportunity. HR is generally not in a position to understand my qualifications.

I find it ironic that employers don't bother, then complain that there's no experienced local candidates available.

To be fair, this isn't just RCUH; pretty much all my employment history involves a direct contact with the hiring manager, with HR brought in after-the-fact. In one case, HR actually admitted that they would not have forwarded my resume.

Feel free to ignore my anecdotal experiences as "just another rant to bring people down", though.

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#22
Kalakoa, as expected you didn't provide any evidence of discrimination and in fact confirmed you did not follow the instructions for applying for a job with RCUH.

When you apply for a job with RCUH you are given instructions on how to apply using their online application site. You specify the job you are applying for and upload a cover letter, resume and other documents the instructions specify. For instance, if the job requires a four-year degree, you have to upload a copy of your degree transcript or a copy of your degree certificate.

If all you did was upload a resume then your application is incomplete and will not be considered. Simple.

Also, if I were part of the hiring team, seeing someone not follow the instructions for applying or simply ignoring them tells me a lot about the candidate, and in most cases would tell me they are not a good fit to the job requirements.
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#23
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Originally posted by TomK

Current MK astronomy job listings are available here. The recent TMT positions are not aimed at India or anywhere in particular, but are certainly being advertised locally:

http://www.maunakeaastronomyjobs.org/searchresults.html




wow, there are more Employers than there are jobs! How sad.


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#24
What, exactly, are you expecting at this stage, ericlp?
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#25
Also, if I were part of the hiring team, seeing someone not follow the instructions for applying or simply ignoring them tells me a lot about the candidate, and in most cases would tell me they are not a good fit to the job requirements.

Perhaps then I, as a prospective employee, should be using this very same opportunity to learn more about the employer; in most cases, those who stand on "process requirements" are unable to make good use of my skills.

Fair enough?
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#26
It has to be difficult to become an employee at one of the Mauna Kea observatories. I would guess there are far fewer positions than there are applicants. When that's the case, HR departments set up a maze in order to reduce the number of resumes to a manageable size. It's one way they can spend the necessary time to properly review the finalists, rather than quickly skimming over tens or even hundreds of applications.

I had a neighbor who volunteered at one of the observatories for a year or two without pay. He loved astronomy. Whenever I saw him all he could talk about was a newly discovered comet, or a meteor shower soon to be on display, or a tv program he saw recently about the universe. After several years NASA offered him a position comparing photos of the same area of the sky, but taken days or weeks apart. He would search for any changes in the position of "stars" which usually indicated a comet or asteroid.

When he was added to the payroll, he was already a fully trained worker, and his employer knew how dedicated he was to his job.

It's difficult to find work at a facility when that is one example of your competition.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#27
Exactly: I can't compete with "free".

For what it's worth: I have the qualifications (wouldn't bother applying otherwise), and I did follow the instructions (it's difficult to "apply" otherwise).

Maybe I'm not "local" enough to constitute the "local talent" they claim isn't available.
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#28
Sorry, Kalakoa, but you said earlier that you didn't follow the instructions but now you say you did. I no longer believe a word you write. You're just bellyaching.
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#29
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Originally posted by kalakoa

Exactly: I can't compete with "free".

For what it's worth: I have the qualifications (wouldn't bother applying otherwise), and I did follow the instructions (it's difficult to "apply" otherwise).

Maybe I'm not "local" enough to constitute the "local talent" they claim isn't available.


[:0]For the love of God! This is almost as bad as your comment when the guy was dead from the elections department. Let me tell you I'm as "local" as the day is long, and old on top of it. It is not whether you have talent (I believe I have talent that could choke a few draft horses) or connections, it's how you present yourself in both person and written word. When applying for a federal, state, county, etc., job, protocol stands. Period.

kalakoa, you makes some extremely valid points, no question. Relentlessly. However, sometimes you do "push the envelope".

I stand with Mr. Tom on this one. JMO.

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#30
Shifting away from astronomical employment for a moment, did you ever wonder what the Andromeda Galaxy would look like in the night sky if it were as bright as the moon? I had always assumed it would be about the size of a star or a small star cluster. It's much larger than I expected (so is this photo if you have slow download speeds):
http://i.imgur.com/EpuhHJa.png
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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