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Southernmost, a'ole pilikia. We try to explain, however, some mindset(s) are tough to accept new information. It is difficult to convince our upbringing and beliefs to closed minds. A'ole pilikia, at least we try, Braddah! Enjoy the day! (Psst, Pohoiki is part of our piko, too.[  ])
Back to topic, we need more cops (which mean more taxes usually) in Puna. Especially now, given the situation. This new change has just begun. It's only going to get worse, if we all don't do our part to help each other stay safe.
Be "maka'ala" (aware, informed, updated) at all times. Especially watch over our keiki and kupuna, please.
JMO.
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What makes you think I was talking about you Southman!
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Originally posted by Southernmost
What's with da demeaning and belittling snork? Just because you can go snorkeling at kapoho with your car doesn't mean that's what all of us WHO WERE BORN HERE LIKE TO DO.You sound like the most insecure, you told that to me twice. First, was I was only here a little while that's why I say go home. Wrong. Second time, wrong. Like measure bra? I'm 6'2, foot size 12.5...lol you're the one who's insecure telling people that they are. I'm just trying to help the guys with absolutely no clue like you even though you've been here 30 years..wow
Why the ALL CAP emphasis?
While I dislike some of your verbal tactics used here and elsewhere Southernmost, you are willing to share so I am asking questions in order to learn.
As for snarkle, I find him to mostly be just entertainment, although he does hit on some truth once and while. Very like a Shakespearean jester, maybe send him some motley for Christmas...
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a few more law abiding, considerate citizens might do da trick
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Ahh, back from some much needed ocean therapy. everyone should get in the ocean and heal da body. So good da feeling.
Opihikao, I dunno why I even try? I'm too blunt anyway, Oh well bombai they learn. They lucky to have you on this forum.
Ironyak, make me understand how people can live in a place where they are not happy with many things, including the people who are from there?? My emphasis is: we are here to stay and we aren't going anywhere. Neither is our lifestyle. We have no where to go, this is our home. This is our way of life, and just because transplants can't understand it, doesn't mean you have to change it to be on par of where you all are originally from. If mainland city style life is so much better, why live on Hawai'i Island?
Also boggles me that people absolutely do no research before they come to this island? Only to realize its nothing what they thought it was? Then, when they realize that, their answer is to change everything to suit their preferences?
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change everything to suit their preferences?
All I want is fiber broadband, which can be installed without desecrating the natural beauty.
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All I want is a 20-25 foot west swell so I can surf a secret spot with my friends.
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Just to make clear: our way if life doesn't include ice use, child abuse/molestation, burglary, robbery, etc, all the really, really bad things. Back in the days there was barely any crime. With the population boom on our island in the early 90's until 2010, approx. 100,000 transplants moved in and so did the crime. (Not saying you're all bad, but with that much people moving in, even a small % of bad apples is way too much for this island.) So we (transplants and locals)do have some common ground. We are against some of the same things.
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So I'm guessing from 2010-2015 about another 50,000 transplants moved here. Seems like at this unsustainable growth rate, only going get worse.
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Originally posted by Southernmost
Ahh, back from some much needed ocean therapy. everyone should get in the ocean and heal da body. So good da feeling.
Opihikao, I dunno why I even try? I'm to blunt anyway, Oh well bombai they learn. They lucky to have you on this forum.
Ironyak, make me understand how people can live in a place where they are not happy with many things, including the people who are from there?? My emphasis is: we are here to stay and we aren't going anywhere. Neither is our lifestyle. We have no where to go, this is our home. This is our way of life, and just because transplants can't understand it, doesn't mean you have to change it to be on par of where you all are originally from. If mainland city style life is so much better, why live on Hawai'i Island?
Also boggles me that people absolutely do no research before they come to this island? Only to realize its nothing what they thought it was? Then, when they realize that, their answer is to change everything to suit their preferences?
Yeah it is beach weather here as well - oh well, stuck for now.
People are often unhappy where they live either by choice or circumstance. My experiences suggests this is not unique to Hawai'i.
I agree that people should research better before moving. Hawai'i is unique in many ways and the oft repeated advice on this forum is to rent for a year before deciding.
Even in these rants by HaoleProud, I don't believe I've heard anyone stating that locals (for lack of a better term = born & raised on island? on any Hawai'i island?) should not stay or that it is not your home. This however is a common phrase heard from locals directed to transplants (for lack of a better word)
For you, is home only the place you were born?
Why do you "have no where to go" in the sense of choosing to live anywhere else on this vast planet?
"This is our way of life" - here is the phrase underlying much contention IMHO. It is used to justify a wide variety of beliefs and actions, but does little or nothing to explain. I will not call out some of the more questionable examples I have heard, but I am sure most everyone has some experience where this phrase may sound like a excuse. I have a feeling you may object to this statement - I welcome the reply as it is at the heart of the difficult, but important, conversation to have.
Opihikao is a treasure in that she calmly and patiently shares her knowledge and experience even in the face of ignorance or open hostility. You are you and have your own way of stating things which I for one, and I hope many others, welcome whatever you are willing to share.
I consider any response as a day to check off on the path to 30 years of education
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