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Originally posted by Wao nahele kane
It would be nice if the State had sent a few dump trucks out with a backhoe to clean up the garbage and rubbish abandon vehicles along the sides of Railroad. I don't consider it a pristine area drive simply because of that factor alone.
ETA - It displayed perfectly the States real sentiments about the "Aina". I can understand had the situation been an emergency and lava did cross 130 and RR went into use immediately after completion but that's not the case. Certainly they must have noticed the trash and they've had months to address the issue yet ignored it having plenty of resources to deal with it quickly but instead leaving it and opening the road and displaying it to everyone who drove the road. It just further demonstrated State neglect/disregard for this area.
I think it displays the disregard the people who dumped all that crap out have for the area. The county made the road, the State of Hawaii just gave permission, it is the county who should get it cleaned up since we can't get the idiots who did all the dumping for however many years. This is the perfect example of how too many people treat the land, we have free transfer stations that will take everything that was dumped out there, and yet that was harder than taking it out on what was barely a road and dumping it out there?
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Certainly the people who created the mess had little to no regard for the Aina but that doesn't change the fact that someone (The Mayor?) drove that road before it opened and didn't order a cleanup. Seriously... WTF? They didn't notice it or didn't care enough to order a cleanup? It's a damn disappointment that when the area was to be potentially revealed to the general public no-one had the foresight to get the mess cleaned up. It's like a punch in the balls, IMO and very discouraging.
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Most of those stripped out vehicles are most likely stolen.
The issue is that the County will claim that those vehicles are sitting on "private property" just outside of the right-of-way and they cannot legally remove them. If that is the case, then the County needs to send an immediate letter to each property owner requesting removal of the illegally stored, unregistered, junk vehicles since keeping unregistered junk vehicles should require a special use permit for a salvage yard. Give them 30 days and then either fine them or have County contract out the removal, sending the property owner the bill and filing a lien on the property.
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I don't think much of that land that RailRoad runs through is "private property." Isn't most of that land State owned, or at least State controlled.
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I just looked up the maps...
Coming right at the end of Nanawale (Kehau Rd) is a 930 acre Bishop Estate parcel in which the emergency road runs through the middle. I believe they have the money to clean up their land?
The next parcel after that is 1198 acres of forest preserve, owned by the State of Hawaii.
Between Nanawale and Beaches/Shores, those are the only 2 property owners needed to contact...
On the North side of Beaches, the 2 properties that directly abut the right-of-way are both owned by the State...
So are the next 2, which takes you all the way into HPP.
So my earlier statement about notifying the property owners and filing liens is a moot point... LOL
Seems like the County needs to contact the 2 deadbeat landowners and ask them to remove their junk vehicles?
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The land owners are technically the victims of illegal dumping on their property, which is pretty common with large absentee landlord properties. The vehicles only belong to them by virtue of being dumped on their property by irresponsible scum. I really doubt either Bishop Estate or the State were dumping vehicles on that land.
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I really doubt either Bishop Estate or the State were dumping vehicles on that land.
It was humor... [
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So basically there's no excuse for leaving the trash piles there. That speaks volumes.
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Originally posted by leilanidude
I really doubt either Bishop Estate or the State were dumping vehicles on that land.
It was humor... []
As is so common, the humor didn't translate over the internet.
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Um...I stand corrected. Just drove RR again from HB to HPP and noticed a 25 MPH sign right before the pavement begins on the HPP side. Shortly after that is a 15 MPH sign. So perhaps Obie is right, that 15 MPH was for when the road was unpaved and the county neglected to remove it? Either way it's confusing.
Tim
A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions--Confucius
