Palikapu Dedman with the Pele Defense Fund

[2liveque]

Palikapu is from Ka'u.
Ka'u was once known for its fierce warriors. Word to the wise: All Hawaiians are not created equal.
Do not expect all Hawaiians to be from the same fabric. Do not expect them to all be like "that one Hawaiian guy I once met." Pali may be fierce and direct, but he is also a man of action and integrity. A little loud and direct, but not beyond reason. Pali is as genuine as they come.

[opihikao]

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Originally posted by 2liveque

Palikapu is from Ka'u.
Ka'u was once known for its fierce warriors. Word to the wise: All Hawaiians are not created equal.
Do not expect all Hawaiians to be from the same fabric. Do not expect them to all be like "that one Hawaiian guy I once met." Pali may be fierce and direct, but he is also a man of action and integrity. A little loud and direct, but not beyond reason. Pali is as genuine as they come.

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Yes, 2liveque, Ka'u, and more specifically for our ohana, Kapa'ahu, are known for fierce warriors.

The message from my Kupuna, including the Master of the Lua (maternal great-great-grandfather), who trained the King's warriors in Kapa'ahu, was very specific in the field of battle. We can not fight today the way of Kupuna. Everyone would have a curse on them, or an akualele flown at them, or be dead.

As we move forward, "warriors" sometimes get thrown in prison. Not because of their beliefs, but due to their actions, in this day and age. Drugs was not Palikapu's only offense.

He is indeed a man of action. As far as integrity, we shall see. That is one big, fat word for the man to live up to. I know him well, for decades, and know his mission. It is a good one, but leaves room for improvement.

We all fight for "our people", in our own way. There are those of us who have been "fighting" for our entire lives, yet never have been disrespectful until provoked (mahalo AM). Then it becomes "defense".

Ha'aha'a goes out the window, and Ha'aheo shows it's firm face.

dakine states: The question of humility, of aloha, which seems to be an undercurrent to this thread, brings to mind the saying:

Do Not Mistake My Aloha for Weakness

Indeed, never, ever, mistake our kindness (aloha) for weakness. Ever.

Ralph Palikapu Dedman's service to this country is admirable. We have veterans from Viet Nam in our ohana, too. None of them came home to do drugs and worse, but lived a good, clean life. They endured the same experience as this man, and perhaps more (ie. front line, snipers, etc.). Bless them all.

In closing, back to topic, this money spent on "native Hawaiian health study" could have gone towards his Pu'uhonua if he played his cards differently. I also pray he makes peace with his Mother, who is the epitome of a kanaka maoli woman.


JMO.

ETA: Typo. Looking for my glasses. Kala mai.

[Punatic007]

I don't see where digging up old dirt on a public forum about Dedman is helpful or integrous.

[Johnd]

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Originally posted by 2liveque

Palikapu is from Ka'u.
Ka'u was once known for its fierce warriors. Word to the wise: All Hawaiians are not created equal.
Do not expect all Hawaiians to be from the same fabric. Do not expect them to all be like "that one Hawaiian guy I once met." Pali may be fierce and direct, but he is also a man of action and integrity. A little loud and direct, but not beyond reason. Pali is as genuine as they come.

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he is also an extreme form of racism that does not represent well Hawaiians. Mr. Dedman quickly forgets the roots that gave him that last name,for the the more profitable part of the family that my allow him to temporarily shine at the moment. He is an opportunist, not a warrior. We live in a Republic, one with laws that allows for equality. I fail to see equality when funds are to be appropiated to study the welfare of some in spite of the need of the community as whole.

jdo

[Punatic007]

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Originally posted by Johnd

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Originally posted by 2liveque

Palikapu is from Ka'u.
Ka'u was once known for its fierce warriors. Word to the wise: All Hawaiians are not created equal.
Do not expect all Hawaiians to be from the same fabric. Do not expect them to all be like "that one Hawaiian guy I once met." Pali may be fierce and direct, but he is also a man of action and integrity. A little loud and direct, but not beyond reason. Pali is as genuine as they come.

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he is also an extreme form of racism that does not represent well Hawaiians. Mr. Dedman quickly forgets the roots that gave him that last name,for the the more profitable part of the family that my allow him to temporarily shine at the moment. He is an opportunist, not a warrior. We live in a Republic, one with laws that allows for equality. I fail to see equality when funds are to be appropiated to study the welfare of some in spite of the need of the community as whole.

jdo

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At this point, petitioning on behalf of Hawaiian studies gets you the money and the attention. That's the only avenue we have to get the truth about how dangerous or not is geothermal and I'm glad Mr. Dedman is going down that road. Given there are much more earth friendly ways of generating energy and the Hawaiians lived amazingly close to the land, it was a part of them, this study is vital. Heavy industry is your backyard is not living in peace with the land.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Republic? Kingdom? Before that:

Around 70,000 BC only 40-1000 adult humans remained on earth. Someone else in now living on their land.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/1...70-000-b-c

Noah's Ark. Landed on Mt Ararat? Noah wasn't Turkish.

Adam & Eve. God kicked them out of Eden. By all accounts, no one has ever been allowed back in for the way they acted. Which is, not finding happiness with what you have.

You can still find plenty of Hawaiians who are descendents of other chiefs on Maui, Oahu, and Kauai who are none too happy if you use the terms Kamehemeha and unite the islands in the same sentance.

[snorkle]

johnD says;
"he is also an extreme form of racism that does not represent well Hawaiians. Mr. Dedman quickly forgets the roots that gave him that last name,for the the more profitable part of the family that my allow him to temporarily shine at the moment".


Hello Pot.....This is Kettle.......

[PunaMauka2]

blah blah warrior blah blah. what's an indigenous person, anyway?

[MarkP]

Reminds me of Kau Inoa and their message that Hawaiians are somehow innately more fit for some things than others. Well, that's probably not what they think they are saying but it is the most logical interpretation of their words.

http://www.yelp.com/topic/honolulu-kau-inoa-ugghhhhhh

[PunaMauka2]

i'd agree, MarkP.

glad i have removed myself from being subjected to commercials on a regular basis.

don't you love how we have those who position themselves to determine with intrinsic authority their own definition of who innately belongs to this or that select ingroup. and if you don't agree with their definition, why that means you are a traitor without breath, not of the land, or some such self-serving nonsense. put a nostalgically romanticized poetic spin on the prideful overcompensation and the underlying ugliness becomes a hip and wondrous bandwagon.