Hawaiian Acres Problems

[Bullwinkle]

Kinda reminds me of Mexico in the day. Stop signs provided by the soft drink companies ....ALTO in big letters - underneath in smaller print "pepsi"

3rd world solutions, to first world issues - grin

[cfscott]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

HARC was gifted some stop signs from councilman danny paleka

An apparent violation of County Code, hopefully we can get some more lawsuits going.

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Hi, can you please explain to me how these signs are a violation of County Code when the signs came from the County? Please include the HRS code, so that we can make sure our community is in compliance.

[justthefacts]

bullwink , thats a good idea advertise on the sign , maybe we could even get signs for all the roads that way.

[cfscott]

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Originally posted by justthefacts

HARC was gifted some stop signs from councilman danny paleka . now HARC is deciding where to put them up but some folks are saying dont put them up . what a dilemma i would think a stop sign would be an asset for the community. go figure

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Hello, I haven't heard any reactions about the signs yet (positive or negative). If you could point anyone with complaints or suggestions to the HARC office, it would much appreciated.

Also, if anyone has any suggestions for Stop sign locations, please feel free to let HARC know. There are a limited number of signs, but we want to make sure our community is as safe as possible.

[justthefacts]

CFscott , did signs really come from the "county" isnt there a special department that handles roads and signage. i think its called public works . so how did the councilman get the signs and circumvent the system.

[cfscott]

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Originally posted by justthefacts

CFscott , did signs really come from the "county" isnt there a special department that handles roads and signage. i think its called public works . so how did the councilman get the signs and circumvent the system.

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Although I'm not privy to the interworkings of all the County departments, I believe the Councilman worked with the DPW for us. I don't believe there was any circumventing. I appreciate the conspiracy theory but this is something to be thankful for, not something to drum up suspicion. Literally any person can order a Stop sign, so let's take it down one notch.

[kalakoa]

Section 24-8. Council to exercise certain functions by ordinance.
(a) The council shall by ordinance:
(2) Create, define, redefine, eliminate or change all speed zones, safety zones, quiet zones, crosswalks other than at intersections, freight and passenger loading and unloading zones, no-parking zones, time-limit parking zones, parking meter zones, tow or tow-away zones, bus stops, U-turn areas, prohibited U-turn areas, prohibited left and right turns, one-way streets, through streets, stop intersections, roadways closed to pedestrian traffic, and roadways closed to certain classes of vehicles.

[cfscott]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

Section 24-8. Council to exercise certain functions by ordinance.
(a) The council shall by ordinance:
(2) Create, define, redefine, eliminate or change all speed zones, safety zones, quiet zones, crosswalks other than at intersections, freight and passenger loading and unloading zones, no-parking zones, time-limit parking zones, parking meter zones, tow or tow-away zones, bus stops, U-turn areas, prohibited U-turn areas, prohibited left and right turns, one-way streets, through streets, stop intersections, roadways closed to pedestrian traffic, and roadways closed to certain classes of vehicles.

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HARC isn't creating, defining, redefining, eliminating or changing any of those things.

So please explain to me how the stop signs are not in compliance? Or are you saying the County itself is not in compliance?

[dmbwest]

CfScott,

Don't know how many you have.

I think a good way to use them would be to mount in concrete filled tire so the signs are moveable.
Try out @ tops / bottoms of roads and way down on 1.

Or put them up on 1 just before the biggest holes for now.

Save one more for this thread : )

aloha,
pog

[cfscott]

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Originally posted by pog

CfScott,

Don't know how many you have.

I think a good way to use them would be to mount in concrete filled tire so the signs are moveable.
Try out @ tops / bottoms of roads and way down on 1.

Or put them up on 1 just before the biggest holes for now.

Save one more for this thread : )

aloha,
pog

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Interesting idea! I wouldn't have thought to do that. I'll bring this up to the others. Thank you