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The workplace uses "or equivalent experience" all the time
If, in fact, the law indicated that equivalent experience was acceptable, I would have zero argument with Leithead-Todd's appointment to the position.
County has shown itself unwilling/unable to "waive the technicality" as it applies to interpretation of the building code, because "rules and laws are for everyone".
Apparently the rule of law is not universal or guaranteed. Act surprised. (Later, when the inspector comes, I'll explain that my construction is "substantially similar" to the Code as written, let's see how far I get with that.)
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That's conjecture. Do we really know that?
Would you go to a doctor who was an English major? (and didn't go to med school?)
A dentist who graduated from the art department at a community college?
etc...
Of course, the engineer applicants might not be more qualified than an English major, but they have taken classes in their area of expertise. That's why colleges have majors. Otherwise, why not let students take 120 credits of whatever they like?
Apparently that is acceptable for a position with the County of Hawaii. Maybe even get a pCard with the job.
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She is not in an engineer; she's in an administrative and managerial post. She manages engineers. She's done it before. She's done it well.
Please list specific complaints about how she's mismanaged the department....
I'm starting to think nobody has actually looked at this aspect whatsoever in the general rush to point fingers and cut someone down.
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the general rush to point fingers and cut someone down.
Who is cutting who down?
You can't blame Leithead-Todd for accepting the position if it was offered to her, can you? The person or committee who made the job offer should know who is qualified to fill the spot.
This is not personal.
This is the county making rules for themselves that they then refuse to follow.
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@HOTPE: The person was Billy Kenoi and the "committee" was the council, which approved the appointment 6-3. (This might also explain why we have had no moves by the council to censure the Mayor for the pCard scandal.) And yes, the county is quite good at making rules for themselves that they refuse to follow. Leithead-Todd is not entirely blameless, though. She took a position for which she was not qualified and then hired a lawyer to defend it when challenged. If she's such a fine, upstanding person, why did she do that?
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"County has shown itself unwilling/unable to "waive the technicality" as it applies to interpretation of the building code, because "rules and laws are for everyone".
Well, except for Special use permits.
"Would you go to a doctor who was an English major? (and didn't go to med school?)"
If you owned a medical center, would you have a doctor manage it? Someone with no business experience?
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If you owned a medical center, would you have a doctor manage it?
If I was on the board, I would follow hiring proceedures.
If I owned the medical center, I would do whatever I wanted. But with the required interactions between myself and patients, doctors, other employees, medicare, medicaid, insurance... I'd probably be out of business in no time at all if I went my own way - - and suffer the consequences.
Not the county. They just raise my taxes for their mistakes.
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except for Special use permits.
SUP does not waive building code requirements; the failed SB2274 would have allowed this.
They just raise my taxes for their mistakes.
No, they raise everyone's taxes, but with the property tax exemptions this doesn't necessarily translate into "more revenue".
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Most engineers are not capable of managing people.
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A bunch of Punatics deciding who is or isn't qualified for a professional position
Yes, it's totally pointless to interpret the letter of the law when your "elected officials" can't be bothered with this technicality (unless it's about the "code compliance" of your jungalow, then they're able to quote chapter and verse...)
