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It figures it's a Punatic from Pahoa. She ran for Lt. governor at one time. Shows the range of candidates one can expect from south Puna. The first time, she was driving around on the summit at 2:30 in the morning.
This is the bigger problem. She is claiming "cultural rights". There is this thing going on with all these white people, all malama about not being racist, then trying to claim some connection to a specific race, like this woman:
http://libertynews.com/2015/06/uh-oh-new...ore-riots/
UH OH: New Video Shows Fake Black Woman Rachel Dolezal in Baltimore Fueling Race War During Baltimore Riots
This is not that unusual among these professional protesters. Once ran into a white woman fighting for native American rights because she claimed to be native American. I said, "But you are white". She quickly corrected me, lightning quick. She said "I'm not white, I am albino". The problem with the majority being the rule is the majority is turning into a bunch of nut cases.
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she claimed to be native American. I said, "But you are white".
Perhaps she was trans-racial?
Pretty soon, when nobody knows who or what anyone else is, stereotyping another person will become impractical.
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Jezzz Ted, judging race by the cover eh?
Glad I am one step above that!  I laugh at people with born here not flown here t-shirts ... We are all one people. But even if you 100% hawaiian and you are for TMT, you won't be accepted into the hawaiian brothership or kingdom. Funny how that works.
Look at Obama, too white to be black and too black to be white. Wow, sometimes I wonder how anyone in America makes it if they are born half and half like that... Who do you side with on that?
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Miss the point, as usual. That woman that has been a recent national example is not that uncommon in these professional activist groups.
That sounds like a broad generalization to me, the story of the woman who claimed to be black is, frankly, quite unusual. All the more power to her to pulling it off so long, and by all accounts, she's been a very effective and competent activists, so there's that.
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"It's a warning to any ventures in the future, better get consensus from the people who's views matter the most."
"people whose views matter most", yeah.
"...asserting their right as people of the land."
what qualifies a person to be a "people of the land" anyway, results deemed sufficient from a genealogical DNA test kit? who isn't a "people of the land"? ARRR, maybe a salty pirate ...or a hot air balloonist.
anyway, just say no to telescopes to help return the kingdom to the people whose views matter most in our society.
Very cynical. So I take it you have no roots you value?
Who's views matter the most? Anyone that has a stake in the outcome, and the priority radiates from there decreasing in importance. Does the TMT have a direct effect on you positive or negative? Will the ecology affect well-being and value of where and how you live?
If I was born and raised here, I'd fight to know exactly what effect anything will have on the land first and foremost, like where does the waste go? How much waste will have to be disposed of? Traffic? Water? Is the impact beneficial and worth it to majority of people that live around it?
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Since the inception of Statehood, business in Hawai'i has been tailored to provide for few, not the many. It still exists, to some extent. Those of us born prior to Statehood, recall a better day, when the wise, old souls (Kupuna) led the way.
We are all responsible for empowering the wise old souls. I feel fortunate for having arrived here in Puna while it's pristine (by mainland standards). I didn't come here looking for the same mess I left, and I feel compelled to protect it's state. I hope locals, no matter where you originated, will do their best to support locally owned businesses, to practice good stewardship and band together to invest in the growth and deny that growth to outside vultures looking for a kill. I love this place, love the isolation, the wilderness, and also love there is all the infrastructure required for modern life. Living (and even wasting) in it has more value than life of 9-5 living in a cubicle for the conscious portion of your life.
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I feel fortunate for having arrived here in Puna while it's pristine (by mainland standards).
It's more pristine than some areas of the mainland, less pristine than others. Our ohia forests were cut & shipped away to the mainland years ago, large areas of land in Puna were cleared of native plants and trees then planted in sugarcane. Birds are extinct due to human hunting. Have you noticed all of the greenhouses & shade houses growing flowers? They're not organic flowers. Don't get me wrong, I love Puna too, but it's not an untouched Garden of Eden.
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I guess I should have qualified that as "pristine place I want to be". I mean, yeah, Death Valley is pristine. 
Yes, I realize a lot of damage has been done, I should have said there are a lot of prime acreage that's still pristine. But sugar is gone, and logging seems to be pretty taboo these days? I'm not sure why flowers need to be organic, unless you're implying those operations are polluting the ground around them, I have no problem with the business.
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"Who's views matter the most? Anyone that has a stake in the outcome, and the priority radiates from there decreasing in importance."
The coalition of countries and scientists investing in th TMT has the highest stake in the outcome. So by your logic, they should decide, no?
The TMT to the antis seems to be little more than a red herring. Wouldn't make a bit of actual difference if TMT existed or not, except that they are holding it hostage for unknown reasons.
And for the record, do you see TMT as an "outside vulture looking for a kill"? How so?
How old do I have to be, by the way, to get qualified as wise?
(Well, I better hush up or it will be clear that I am a paid shill for the TMT, and I certainly don't want _that_ to get out. No one could possibly be for the glory and beauty that will be the TMT because of principles--and anyone who publicly disagrees must be paid by the evil folks. But worry not, reason cannot defeat unreason...)
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unless you're implying those operations are polluting the ground around them
Yes, not only implying but saying. A single greenhouse probably pollutes the water table more on one of their regular spray days (at least once a week, sometimes more often), than the TMT is likely to do in 50 years.
Source: I know several flower growers and have seen the controlled pesticides they are required by law to keep in a locked storage area. I'm also a supporter of a local flower industry that creates jobs and income. Almost everything requires some kind of trade off.
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Newgirl states:
"So I take it you have no roots you value?"
i don't see your reasoning at all by asking this question in response. rather than guess at the logic or intent behind this question, i would ask you to clarify before responding in kind.
"Who's views matter the most? Anyone that has a stake in the outcome, and the priority radiates from there decreasing in importance."
my simple answer to whose views matter most is anyone and everyone who resides on Hawai'i Island and feels concerned. it is not my place nor anyone else's to manufacture and impose a pecking order of importance. everyone has a voice.
"If I was born and raised here, I'd fight to know exactly what effect anything will have on the land first and foremost,..."
personally, i don't put much stock in the "born and raised here" qualifier. in fact, as an accurate indicator of character i find it to be almost completely unreliable, not to mention often steeped in an insular arrogance. if we are to judge, it's only common sense that judging individual character on a case be case basis provides better results than broad stereotyping.
if someone calls the Big Island the home that they dearly love, without some pretty clear and convincing evidence to the contrary to go on, who am i to start ranking their degree of belonging?
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