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Puna Roundabout
#11
Does Pahoa need a roundabout?

Why would DOT ask Puna what it "needs"?
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#12
It needs something. A recent study determined that the intersection in Pahoa is the most dangerous in the world.
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#13
that... intersection in Pahoa is the most dangerous in the world.

It's good to know I'm not the only person who never drives any farther than Puna & South Hilo!
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#14
that... intersection in Pahoa is the most dangerous in the world.

Not surprising since Malama Market is world famous in Pahoa.
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#15
Malama Market is world famous in Pahoa.

...but definitely not in a "good way".
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#16
"A recent study determined that the intersection in Pahoa is the most dangerous in the world."
Not surprising considering that;
1. The right hand right of way is not observed here and when making a right turn one must yield for cars making a left off the highway at such marked intersections. Stupidest rule ever and doesn't consider that those making a left turn off the highway cannot know for certain if those making a right off the highway have a yield sign or not unless they are familiar with the intersection. Not to mention that this law in Hawaii is not normal to the rest of the nation and begs for tourist to become victims of the unique Hawaii rule.
2. The entry lane to south 130 was marked over and blocked off with sticks forcing motorist to make a hard right directly into a fast moving traffic lane as if motorist aren't familiar with merging entry and exit lanes. The current layout is a mistake in proper lane marking techniques creating the problems that are happening.

Simply marking the lanes properly and adopting an entry lane in the currently wasted shoulder while changing the State law to right hand right of way like every other state and developed nation would use (left hand right of way in UK nations etc using left lane travel) would solve the damn problem.

The problem is the Hawaii DOT overzealous and over controlling lane marking practices and the wayward Hawaii breaking of the right hand right of way rule established in this nation long before Hawaii became a state. There are very good reasons for the right hand right of way rule yet this state seems to think it knows better (BS).
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#17
After driving on Oahu's roads which do not resemble those here on the Big Island... I would suspect who ever is selling road marking material here is kicking back moneys to the County engineers to buy unnecessary road marking materials and spec them out. This counties roads are more liken to a Christmas tree or a Mexican Piñata than a road system in the USA and the grossly marked out roadways here are more of a distraction and hazard than assistive when it comes to driving. This Mexican Piñata marking of the roadways here needs to stop!
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#18
Can you provide an intersection example?
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#19
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Originally posted by Wao nahele kane

After driving on Oahu's roads which do not resemble those here on the Big Island... I would suspect who ever is selling road marking material here is kicking back moneys to the County engineers to buy unnecessary road marking materials and spec them out. This counties roads are more liken to a Christmas tree or a Mexican Piñata than a road system in the USA and the grossly marked out roadways here are more of a distraction and hazard than assistive when it comes to driving. This Mexican Piñata marking of the roadways here needs to stop!


I think you are insulting Mexican Pinata makers by comparing them to anything to do with our roads.
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#20
Re excessive road markings. You are right, wao nahele kane, Oahu roads are different. Worse. I was raised on Oahu and now live here. I was immediately impressed by the road markings. Instead of street lights and road signs, we have paint. Cheaper. Creative. Zany and impossible to ignore. A SCHOOL ZONE sign or the wild zig zags? You could not possible speed by Keonepoko Elementary School with the roads marked as they are. I love it. And yes, Pahoa NEEDS a roundabout. Ever drive by there and not seen broken glass? Yesterday the stop sign had been flattened again.
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