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New path to sovereignty...
#1
Today, on the Hawaii News Now website, at:

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30144...overeignty

there is (imo) a very uplifting article entitled Federal government proposes new path to sovereignty which begins:

In a 74-page document, the U.S. Department of the Interior set a framework for a Native Hawaiian government's relationship with the U.S. Government if that's what Native Hawaiians want.

and goes on to quote many Hawaiians as well as our congressional delegation. Senator Mazie K. Hirono in part says:

“Many in Hawaii have persevered for decades to reach this point. I think of those with whom I’ve worked tirelessly, both as Hawaii’s lieutenant governor and during my time in Congress, to achieve recognition for Native Hawaiians that is on par with the relationships the Federal government has established with Alaska Natives and Native Americans. I will continue to call for forward momentum on this issue until that final step is achieved.”

The federal governments announcement itself is at:

https://www.doi.gov/ohr/hawaiian-govt-to...posed-rule

And there in part it says:

The proposal, which takes the form of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), builds on more than 150 Federal statutes that Congress has enacted over the last century to recognize and implement the special political and trust relationship between the United States and the Native Hawaiian community...

And goes on to ask for comments from the public:

Members of the public are encouraged to read the proposal and provide comments in writing by email to part50@doi.gov, on www.regulations.gov (docket no. DOI-2015-0005), or by U.S. mail/hand delivery to the Office of the Secretary, Department of the Interior, Room 7228, 1849 C St. NW, Washington, DC 20240. The public is also encouraged to participate in the scheduled teleconferences on the proposed rule.

Which caused me to wonder if those who have voiced such strong feelings about this matter here are going to comment? And, if so would they share their comments with us. Not in the hostile screw the other guy manner that has been used to date, because I doubt the feds are going to listen to anyone when they speak like that. But seriously, now that you're being invited to comment, what are you going to say?

The complete proposal itself is available for review at:

https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.opengov.ib....29.15.pdf
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#2
I do not understand how the issue of sovereignty for native Hawaiians is related to the extremist position of secession. The right of a state to secede from the Union was settled in 1861-65 by a bloody civil war. That said, if sovereignty means native Hawaiians taking a more substantial role in governing Hawaii then I am all for it. It it is about establishing a 'King' with power to abrogate the Constitution of the USA, seize private property, etc. that is not going to happen. Ever.

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#3
Mahalo for posting this, dakine.

Personally, I have mixed feelings, and will think this through before commenting. God forbid our opinions get dissected, challenged, and worse, disrespected. Auwe! Rather do some more research, think quietly, and ponder what is the right thing for us Hawaiians (as one little voice, one ohana).

Disengaging for now. E kala mai.

Enjoy the evening all. The moon is quite lovely. [Smile]

Kaulana Na Pua

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhibLQFebpQ


Aloha ahiahi.



JMO.
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#4
There was coverage about this on the news last night.

It seems to me that if anything is going to happen moving forward, looking into the future instead of the past, that Recognition is the only real probability.

Many saying that it will further divide the Hawaiian community.
I don't see how it could be any more divided that it already is.

Life's not fair get over it. At least this will lead to some kind of settlement.
And this is what we need.
I for one am sick and tired of NOTHING happening which leads to more convolution.
One Thing I can always be sure of is that things will never go as expected.
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#5
the U.S. Department of the Interior set a framework for a Native Hawaiian government's relationship with the U.S. Government

First requirement is that the "Native Hawaiian Government" agree to exist, so that it can send a representative delegate to the US Government.

Given the multiple "Hawaiian" factions, this will take some doing.
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#6
The sooner they can pull this together, the sooner they can start the river of cash flowing to them:

http://nypost.com/2015/09/29/south-dakot...na-resort/
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#7


Money and decadence, Americans sure know how to support great ventures.
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#8
quote:
Originally posted by Punatic007
Money and decadence, Americans sure know how to support great ventures.

The white US rounded up the native peoples and drove them on to reservations, like reserve a room in a hotel. A century later, if they were German, they were called concentration camps, if they were American, they were called interment camps, like camps for people that have been bad.

This whitewashing of the European race history just keeps going on. This government proposal is an offer to recognize a Hawaiian nation, not to grant or allow a Hawaiian nation. A lot of Hawaiians don't think federal recognition is worth anything considering the US government has broken every treaty made with the First nations.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#9
IMO this is just a way to stop the movement towards actual sovereignty. When they held the DOI hearings the major opinion by the people who spoke was that Hawaii is being occupied and that nation within a nation status was not what we wanted. This imo is just a way to officially transfer sovereignty.



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#10
And bingo! There it is, the US Government saying clearly to the Hawaiian people, go ahead form your government. And I ask again, is there a problem with that?

on the surface it looks like a step in the right direction, but if you believe that Hawaii is being occupied by the US(which was the overwhelming consensus of testimonies given during the DOI hearings), this comes off as a way for the US to officially transfer sovereignty by putting in place a new "Hawaiian government" and having them officially transfer sovereignty. The only thing that should be happening is a deoccupation.

With all that said, I'm happy it was the US that is occupying us but that still doesn't make it right.
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