Lava Removal in Pahoa

[pahoated]

And just to remind you, the June 27:14 flow is still active. Don't know if Paradise got some advance indication or were just there when the breakout happened yesterday, spectacular. Still way up slope but there is always the chance the road opening is temporary.
https://youtu.be/dgsYV9qGVhI

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[pam jones]

What a brilliant idea! Eight Fingers if people will pay for pet rocks, naming a star after a loved one and the assorted other crazy things to spend money on, I know people would pay for a piece of lava! I bet if this were marketed right enough money could be generated to pay for the whole project. I'm sure the county would be thrilled if someone would haul it all away for free. Who in the world wouldn't want to own a piece of the rock and among the newest rock on the planet to boot![]

[kalakoa]

We are not a subdivision with private roads.

Not relevant; at issue is a County ("public") road which is being repaired despite the fact that these repairs are lacking for other "public" roads which happen to connect people to their homes. How exactly these houselots were created is not the point.

[Rene Siracusa]

Chunkster: I totally agree that the subdivisions are getting the shaft regarding no help for their so-called private roads. It's all in the stupid definitions. I believe that if the public uses the road, it is a public road. The community associations involved need to work with their councilpersons to change the definitions in the rules in order to remove the basis for the inequity.

Kalakoa: How the homesteads were formed IS relevant. Apa'a Street and Ka'ohe Homestead Road are County roads, but are not IN Ka'ohe Homesteads. They are the sole access TO Ka'ohe Homesteads. And the County has the mandate to keep its roads open and serviceable. Bottom line. Parcels are not allowed to be landlocked, which is what the lava is currently doing.

Subdivisions, on the other hand, per the documents and rules that created them, contain private subdivision roads, unless the subdivision has turned them over to the County, like Ainaloa Blvd. In some cases the County has offered to take over certain subdivision roads, and the community association has opposed that, or set additional conditions that the County was not willing to accept at that time. You are comparing apples and oranges.

[kalakoa]

Apa'a Street and Ka'ohe Homestead Road are County roads, but are not IN Ka'ohe Homesteads. They are the sole access TO Ka'ohe Homesteads.

South Kulani Road is a County road which is not IN Fern Acres but provides the sole access TO Fern Acres. Residents of that subdivision would probably really like to have the "multiple roads (with one blocked)" problem.

[Chunkster]

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Originally posted by Rene Siracusa

Chunkster: I totally agree that the subdivisions are getting the shaft . . . The community associations involved need to work with their councilpersons to change the definitions in the rules in order to remove the basis for the inequity.

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Thank you for your reasoned reply, Rene. This might belong on the political forum, but I have to say it. Greggor Ilagan entered office three years ago knowing that this issue was high on the list of his constituents' concerns. What has he done about it? Nothing, but he has announced that he is running for the state senate so he can maintain the status quo and endlessly cogitate at a higher level.

Edited to add: And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I have emailed and spoken in person to Ilagan in person about the issue of subdivision roads. Runaround city.