10-26-2015, 08:39 PM
PM2: I get a sense the Japanese Admirals knew the truth ahead. We've awakened a giant!!
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TMT Work to Resume Says Ige!
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10-26-2015, 08:45 PM
10-26-2015, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the updates to the current growing pollution problem atop maunakea. Found this recent video that talks about the TMT project, maunakea, and some advancements in technologies.
https://vimeo.com/136151539 Maunakea was once known to be a place that was peaceful, quiet, and calm. Hope those kind of qualities can return someday for future generations as well. 
10-26-2015, 09:34 PM
Last time I was atop mauna kea, it was very peaceful. Always very peaceful there.
10-27-2015, 03:12 AM
quote: Opihikao, I pointed this out before, but you ignored my reply. So, I'm going to re-post it again. On what grounds can TMT sue the state of Hawaii if their permitting is ruled invalid? They haven't even started construction on the physical telescope facility on Mauna Kea. I'm more concerned about the backers of the Daniel K. Inouye Solar Telescope suing the state if Hawaii Supreme Court issues an unfavorable ruling in the Kilakila 'O Haleakala case. It will be a real hot mess if the Courts force the removal of a nearly complete telescope. Think about it.
10-27-2015, 03:26 AM
quote: There is three options for the court; uphold the permit, invalidate the permit, or refer it back to the BLNR for further consideration. The latter two outcomes are precisely why its wise for the TMT not to resume construction. They would be responsible for restoring the impacted area to its original condition if their permitting is invalidated. The "refer back to BLNR" option will likely kill the project too, as the first go around took over 2 years to complete, which included a lengthy contested case hearing. In addition, any final decision by the BLNR can be judicially appealed.
10-27-2015, 03:44 AM
They would be responsible for restoring the impacted area to its original condition if their permitting is invalidated.
Protestors insist that restoration is "impossible" once the mana has been disturbed -- you can put the rocks back, but it's too late. The "refer back to BLNR" option will likely kill the project too, as the first go around took over 2 years to complete, which included a lengthy contested case hearing. Just look at the wonderful job BLNR has done managing Banyan Drive -- it's enough to make me wonder why TMT bothered, even with the "prime location" and all that.
10-27-2015, 04:15 AM
Against the majority of PW that can't keep focus on a topic beyond the OP, it looks like the "work", or more specifically, site leveling isn't going to start back up until next spring. The night temperature is dropping fast, so snow at the summit is probably not far off. Having observed the short attention spans in south Puna for over 4 years now, by next spring, this will be another issue going from causing the imminent and horrible death of thousands through cancer and poison, to most people on Pahoa village road not remembering what TMT stood for. That will be at the same time all the people watching will be occurring, as Leilani, Nanawale, Kalapana, Seaview, et al are detoured through "downtown" Pahoa village.
"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
10-27-2015, 04:18 AM
another issue going from causing the imminent and horrible death of thousands through cancer
Yes, the new cell towers proposed by Verizon, and that wind farm project for the Department of Water Supply.
10-27-2015, 10:00 AM
So sorry I did not reply before. I often disappear due to illness...or start posting and then fall asleep with the tablet in my hand
 So glad you and hubby have some time together! G quote: Pam in CA
Pam in CA
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Don't want to post it in public here but tom asked for my eMail and i was able to reach him via his pacific view site. He can give ya my eMail and we can catch up.Users browsing this thread: 7 Guest(s)