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"Getting irresponsible generational welfare adults to stop littering is not an easy feat."
I see we've moved on from irrelevant tangents to bash the homeless to introducing sweeping negative generalizations about welfare recipients. 'Tis the season.
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PM2, if you have no problem with generational welfare on the island with all it's negative repercussions, more power to ya. I'd rather see a shift towards a more productive and responsible society, maybe even cleaner too with less garbage on 130.
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Originally posted by Punatic007
. . . not enough police presence on the streets to modify the behavior via fear of a high priced ticket.
The problem is not that we don't have enough police. We have numbers comparable to other places, even well-policed localities on the US mainland. The problem is that the police and their leadership are selective about what laws to enforce and to whom they should be applied. They do not, however, feel compelled to be selective when the voters tell them to, i.e. in relation to marijuana enforcement.
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Sorry, Punatic007, the abrupt connection between litter along the highway and those receiving welfare benefits seemed tenuous at best.
"PM2, if you have no problem with generational welfare on the island with all it's negative repercussions, more power to ya."
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No need to be snarky Beej
Apologies lavalava, I guess I did come across as rather snarky. Nice job on picking up some of the mess. I'll make more of an effort to do the same.
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Originally posted by PunaMauka2
Sorry, Punatic007, the abrupt connection between litter along the highway and those receiving welfare benefits seemed tenuous at best.
"PM2, if you have no problem with generational welfare on the island with all it's negative repercussions, more power to ya."
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Think. Are you not aware of the multitude of studies done on generational welfare recipients? Doesn't exactly create model citizens with good living habits. This shouldn't be too hard for you to connect the dots.
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Not even civilized friendly.
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You call that music?
You must be a die hard republican to enjoy that song.
Anyways...
I've actually picked up a lot of trash in Orchidland when I lived there and owned a pickup. Seeing how some of these fools drive on 130, Id be a bit scared to stop on 130, but I don't own a truck, and I'll be damned if I'm Gonna put someone else's rubbish in my car.
Ya know, when I first moved to the big island from Oahu, about 10 or so years ago. Somebody had a great idea to put up these little wooden signs(hand painted). I still remember them. Signs like (Mahalo for not littering) or "No Litter" things like that... Ones that related to the community. Sadly, the signs didn't weather well. I think they lasted for about a 2-3 years. We need to organize the local community to make some more and hang em on the power poles or trees. I know your not suppose to put anything on the power poles, but... I believed the signs worked in a subliminal kind of way.
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I think signs are great idea Eric. Back on the mainland I remember seeing the "Adopt a Highway" signs - do they have those here in Hawaii? I haven't noticed. I agree that subtle reminders do help lot.