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Ah, It all boils down to the oldest real estate adage of all- location, location, location. If it was Leilani, the Beaches or even Nanawale, the villagers would be after you with pitchforks and torches. If it was Blacksands Beach or Fernforest, nobody would ask what you are doing or want to know, because they're afraid of being turned in themselves too. There are a lot more cabins/yurts/buses/tent camps, than there are real houses in some of these subdivisions. The poor have to live somewhere.
Edited by - leilaniguy on 02/08/2006 00:35:25
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Sorry John I mean't no disregard. I still have trouble getting to use to the fact that there are sales people in todays world that care about the buyer. old school I quess, I'm learning
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I think ther real question is "what wo you want" from the structure. Most people I have met recently buy with an unpermitted structure for the purpose of living in it while they build a permitted home. I have yet to see more than one unpermitted structure that is actually code-able. Just depends on your long term goals I think.... imho......
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Aloha Mike,
Fern Forest, Fern Acres and Hawaiian Acres have a lot of unpermitted structures which aren't visible from the road and are less likely to be scrutinized by the County. None of those areas have water available and most likely all of them are still cesspool systems instead of septic. Electricity is becoming more available although they electric company wants to see a building permit before they will give you power. Phones are easy, especially if they are cell!
Depending on the structure it can be made to code, but the permitting process for it is a whole lot more humbug than new construction. You would also have a harder time finding a contractor to do renovations than a contractor to build new.
If the structure was built prior to 1915 and you have some sort of documentation to prove it, you don't need a building permit. However, I don't think any of those subdivisions were built back then.
Ask your financial instituion about the land mortgages, usually you don't get such good rates on those.
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We are planning on building tempory housing while we build so we can have no commute to the work site, keep an eye on our investment while we are building it, and not have any worry about finding a rental that will allow pets. Also the money we would save on rent for the time we built could be better spent on our own house and land. We have a building permit for our house. My question is will we be able to do this? If our neighbors don't turn us in to the county will the inspectors say anything when they come out to check our progress?
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Aloha Keith, A friend of mine recently did this. He built a 12X16 cabin to live in 18 months while he built. The county noted it as a pre-existing unpermitted structure and allowed it to stay while he built, but in order to have them sign off on the permit, the cabin either had to have an open permit or be torn down before final inspection. He had it permitted as a tool shed. He managed to do this in Leilani, which has some of the strictest CCR's in Puna.
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what if I get plans drawn for let say a HPM house, would I be able to get electricity and a septic system for my cabin even if I never actually start building the house? Or will the county come out to check how the building process is going? And is there a limit for the building process?
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Speaking of neighbors that "snitch", I was sent a letter from a "neighbor" complaining about a "Hawaiian family" living on my land. It seems this "neighbor" dislikes the fact that this "Hawaiian Family" has a Rottweiler dog that they let roam free and threaten anyone that comes near the property. This "snitch" also complained that this "Hawaiian family" drinks alcohol and fires off random gunshots from time to time. The kicker is, I met this "Hawaiian family" and while the husband did have the scent of alcohol on his breath he was just looking out for "His" place in the Puna forest. The lot they live on is actually not one of mine but right next door to it so the "snitch" has it all wrong. The letter was sent to me with no return adress and they signed it "concerned neighbor" The letter did threaten to contact local Police and to that I say "Here's a quarter go make the call". Another point that kills me about this whole thing is this "Hawaiian Family" built a 5 bedroom home on a lot that was choked thick with plant life and they are not just "living on a lot". I trully don't know wether to take this seriously or just ignore it all together since this "concerned citizen" has it all wrong. Any suggestions ??
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If it's not your lot, of course it's not your problem. Mr./ Mrs. anonymous sounds like an annoying pest. Their beef is with the "Hawaiian" family that they are too chicken**** to deal with openly. Don't bother with them.
