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Originally posted by VancouverIslander
Tom: I think Ted is referring to all the people who complain about Hawai'i gun laws and all the other things *some* (not all) new transplants often complain about that locals are more ok with.
PW is really bad with haole stereotyping of locals, trying to judge them from a mainland superior attitude.
This is called the Big Island but it is really a small island. There are locals that have been living here for over a thousand years. Transplants never seem to grasp that.
One way of understanding things is realizing Captain Cook died because he never understood Hawaiians. This is Hawaii, it is going to be different. I am here for the differences, not the similarities to the mainland or try to make it the mainland. The reality is there are a lot of displaced locals, and remember, this is an island, so you get caught, you go into a local jail, you come out in your local neighborhood, you end up doing the same thing, around and around and around, because this is an island. What else are you going to do? No matter where you go, there you are.
The problem is the mainland thug gangsta culture is growing like an invasive fungus, so there is more black totally tinted window cars, open carry, ample meth, probably heroin now, bath salts mixed with cold medicine, rap, and more handguns in circulation. That one guy had an arsenal in the back seat. Volumes smuggled in that quantity has to be by sailboats, and these are haole enterprises. Think 1870, trappers running guns and whiskey to native Indians for furs.
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There are locals that have been living here for over a thousand years.
That's because they drink the fresh, nutrient rich, local coconut milk.
Not the canned stuff imported from Thailand.
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Originally posted by pahoated
[quote] Volumes smuggled in that quantity has to be by sailboats, and these are haole enterprises.
how do you know "Haole" enterprises and not Mexican, Italian, Chineese, Caucasian etc.
The USA is home to many different races and cultures or do you mean "Haole" from the mainland then I guess say Volumes smuggled in that quanity has to be by sailboats, and these are mainland enterprises and leave the specific word "Haole" out of it.
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so there is more black totally tinted window cars,
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Oh, the police cars with the blacked out windows.... [  ]
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Originally posted by pahoated
One way of understanding things is realizing Captain Cook died because he never understood Hawaiians. This is Hawaii, it is going to be different.
Gotcha. If a Hawaiian steals my boat, don't try to get it back. Cuz Hawaiians REALLY REALLY like boats.
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I feel deeply for these poor kids, the Walmart and McDonalds shootings. What Ted doesn't understand is his precious local culture is failing the kids horribly. Where were the good role models in the family and community? Didn't anyone step up and help? These local families are huge.
In my opinion the only way the "haoles" have been a problem is in instituting a too generous welfare system decades ago which has turned into a loser lifestyle for too many. Give them a tool and an education, not a victim identity and lifelong EBT card plus many extras. My local friends take their kids off the island long enough to get a reality check.
The Office of Hawaiian Affairs is who is truly to blame. Instead of educating the kids as they are legally mandated to do, they confiscated millions of dollars annually in trustee bonuses. They then created an education system set up for the elite, a small percentage of the island kids. This has caused more and more rifts within the entire local community, keeping it racial and racist.
Time to cut out the lifetime welfare benefits for people who are not disabled or we can expect more ghetto behavior. It's also time to offer excellent education to all local kids, no more divide it's 2016.
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With all due respect to white locals, I do believe the current exchange regarding malahini and locals purely means --- non-white/islander-looking people who don't look like they recently moved here from Iowa City. Keep in mind that just because you see some lowlife in Puna who happens to look local, it does not mean he is. Local implies ties to Puna....generational ties...family ties...ties to the land and the well being of it. When you move here from Oahu, Maui,or any other locale that you can't afford anymore, you may look like any other local, but your ties to the community is very much different. Many many more "local" looking people are moving here with very little connection to the island other than cheaper rent or leaving the misery of past lives behind. Unfortunately for many of them, misery follows and along those lines, they make things miserable for a few others.
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"What Ted doesn't understand is his precious local culture is failing the kids horribly. Where were the good role models in the family and community?"...etc.
We seem to be getting carried away with the sweeping generalizations on either side, don't you think? We should be more than familiar and unsurprised by pahoated's usual bluster. Responding in kind by widely associating "locals" and local culture primarily with ingrained welfare dependency and fraud along with "ghetto" and lack of education is more of the same, a derogatory stereotype mischaracterizing a very wide swath of people. Time to grow a little?
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"I feel deeply for these poor kids, the Walmart and McDonalds shootings."
38 and 29 are not "kids". Those are the ages of adult men who are old enough, and mentally mature enough, to connect actions and consequences. These are not cases of "kids" making poor choices, maybe their lives of crime started off that way, but a whole series of conscious decisions got them to those parking lots and early deaths at the hands of police officers.
I feel sorry for the officers who were forced into taking 2 lives to protect themselves, their coworkers, and the public, I feel sorry for the guy who was shot at Honoli'i and the people in Kaumana who were shot at in their truck. I do not feel sorry for either of the deceased, these two both consistently acted in ways that endangered others, right up to and including their final acts.
"rap"
Don't forget about that.
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