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Best Air Rifle?
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03-21-2016, 04:22 PM
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Definitely a step up from my 392. http://www.extremebigboreairrifles.com/ I'm told the "pills" can be made at home for pennies. Un Mojado Sin Licencia
Un Mojado Sin Licencia
03-22-2016, 06:45 AM
To keep sound down, stick to under 1100 fps. Speed of sound is generally just above that (depending on altitude, barometric pressure, etc). You get an added 'crack' if above that velocity. Of course, I don't think anyone notices the occasional rifle shot in many of the Ag lot subdivisions.
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03-22-2016, 07:05 AM
Standard powder shell 22 bullet velocity is a little under 1100 feet per second as a "gauge" for you to go by if it helps.
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03-22-2016, 09:04 AM
quote: Tokunaga store, Hilo. Sports Authority Hilo. Wal Mart, Hilo. Wal Mart online you can order a huge selection of airguns and have delivered to your home or PO Box, most for free freight. Then, if you have a problem, I hear you can return it to the store in Hilo. Amazon, you can buy some airguns, but some suppliers won't ship to Hawaii. Airgun Depot also. Jon in Keaau/HPP
Jon in Keaau/HPP
03-22-2016, 09:10 AM
quote: How do you like that Benjamin 392? I suggested to the OP the Benjamin 397 in .177, because Wal Mart has dropped the price way down to $139.99, and was at about $165.00. I love that they have brass barrels, wood stocks, etc. Rust shouldn't be as big a problem. They are a little tougher to scope, and are known to be a might loud for a multi-pumper, but have a good reputation. Most airgun makers play way fast and loose with their velocity claims. Gamo is known to be wildly optimistic. Many use alloy (non-lead) pellets, which are lighter, and faster, when they do the velocity tests. But, almost all of those pellets have atrocious accuracy, so you can't hit anything with them anyway, and they cost a lot more. Jon in Keaau/HPP
Jon in Keaau/HPP
03-22-2016, 04:33 PM
What I am experiencing is that the gun will group OK (albeit not directly on the bulls-eye) for several shots, then shift just as I am getting ready to make adjustments to the scope. I actually went through a multi-step process of matching the ring bases to the dovetail with valve-grinding compound while they were tightened onto the scope so that later they would not try to twist the scope when tightened onto the dovetail. I then bedded the scope into the rings with epoxy. In theory everything should fit perfectly now. I did all ths because on a previous rifle I had a terrible time with the scope sliding in the rings and the rings sliding in the dovetails. Then this all started again with the new NPXL except that it has a Weaver style dovetail welded to the top of the gun that will limit how far the rings can slip on the gun. I am hoping that there is still a little play there that is being taken up and that eventually the POI will stop shifting. I would figure it was just my aim if the shots were totally random but they seem to group in one spot for a while then group in another. I am also hoping that I am not yet through the break-in period. I have about 500 shots through the rifle so far. Some authorities claim that is enough. Anyway my strategy will be to keep shooting in the hope that things improve.
03-22-2016, 06:07 PM
That's right, I had forgot that that airgun has a welded on Weaver rail. I know the early ones were not properly welded (at least some of them), and some broke the welds and the mount came off. Crosman took care of those owners and fixed the problem, and all is supposed to be well now.
I am not a good break barrel shooter, and find them exasperating. But, neither of mine can be considered broken in yet. I am still experimenting with different holds, as many of these are very hold sensitive. Jon in Keaau/HPP
Jon in Keaau/HPP
03-22-2016, 08:24 PM
Thermal expansion ?
Donno know about guns but DO know about epoxy and metals ... What type did you use ? aloha, pog
03-23-2016, 03:03 AM
I heard that ... for 100 bucks you're lucky if the gun is built to last...
If you want any grouping (reliable target hits at say 25 yards) your gonna need a 3-400 gun. That being said... I got this one ... Gamo Hornet Air Rifle, .177 Caliber from amazon for 99 bucks ... price fluctuates a lot. Got a number of different pellet styles. I think each gun shoots better or worse with different pellets. Find the right ones and it will improve accuracy. I'm no pro shooter, I mean, if I was I'd have a 5-600 dollar gun, seems extreme but, you get what you pay for! I wanted something to muck around with and kill a few roosters every now and then.
03-23-2016, 04:00 AM
Scope too loose in the rings and you get wander. Scope too tight and you get strange results as well. I had that with my 300 Savage (model 99). I put a nicer scope on it, followed some good instructions on how to mount it properly and never looked back. The 55 year old scope my Dad had on it was no longer mounted all that well when he gave it to me and I over tightened it trying to correct the problem. When getting an air rifle with scope mounted for that cheap, I bet most of them are poorly mounted out of the factory.
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