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Mountain View juvenile dies from GSW
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03-28-16 Oshiro Road firearms incident
Hawai’i Police Department
Criminal Investigations Section, Area I
Lieutenant Gregory Esteban
Phone: 961-2252
Report No. C16008525

Media Release


Big Island detectives are investigating a fatal firearms related incident that occurred last Friday in Puna.

Friday (March 25, 2016) at 8:09 am, police and Hawai’i Fire Department medics responded to a report of a male juvenile who sustained an injury from a BB gun.

Upon their arrival at a residence off of Oshiro Road in Mountain View, medics learned that the victim sustained an actual gunshot wound. The victim was transported to the Hilo Medical Center in critical condition.

On Saturday (March 26, 2016) the victim was pronounced dead after being removed from life support.

Detectives from the Area I Criminal Investigation Section have initiated a coroner’s inquest and an autopsy is scheduled on Tuesday to determine the exact cause of death.

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Hawaii Police Department
349 Kapiolani St
Hilo, HI 96720

Contact
Emergency: 9-1-1
Non-emergencies: 808-935-3311
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#2
Sincerest condolences to the Ohana of this young man. Too soon.
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#3
So tragic, KJ. I heard this call on the scanner, and my heart just sank. [V]

Apparently, the local news channels have reports on this tonight. (*Same information)

http://www.kitv.com/story/31585175/big-i...ng-in-puna


Big Island Thieves on FB also has a full discussion about this incident, if you read that page.

Poor child, may he rest in peace. SO horrible.

JMO.


ETA: Update (Hawaii News Now):

14-year old Big Island boy shot and killed, now key piece of evidence is missing.
Chance Dias-Elderts was shot last Friday morning. A relative called 911 saying he was shot with a BB gun, but when paramedics got there, they reported that it was a handgun that caused the injuries and paramedics reportedly saw the weapon. But when police arrived, the gun was gone.
The shooting itself was ruled 'accidental', but police are investigating the circumstances before and after the shooting.
Carleen Dias says the boy had been living with his dad and there were three adults in the home when her son was shot, but none went with the boy to the hospital.
The teen was declared brain dead and Dias says making the decision to take him off of life support, was the hardest decision of her life.
Police are working to find the gun and interviewing the people who were in the home at the time.

Details here http://bit.ly/1PCdLuT




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#4
Suicide.
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#5
Shoots Obie,

Really think so ?

Based on nothing, My gut feeling is it was a 14 year old, playing too much adult. Maybe drunk, high, trying to keep up ..

Either way, horrible and most likely avoidable if responsible folks around.

ugh,
pog
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#6
Somebody moved the gun, and nobody stayed with the child. Apparently, responsible adults were lacking until Mom was reached to make the most difficult decision a parent can be required to make. Heart wrenching. Deepest condolences.
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#7
Yep, poor kid, hanging with ------ !

14 years .... ugh.
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#8
This is so damn sad...None of this makes any sense...Being a widow due to suicide (same scenerio), I can NOT even imagine a child, never mind anyone, doing this. [V] I don't get why the gun "disappeared", though. Aloha each other, especially the keiki, please.

JMO.

FYI (Update):

http://bigislandnow.com/2016/03/29/fatal...1459304511

An autopsy on the body of a juvenile shooting victim has determined that the fatal injury was self-inflicted.

The incident occurred on Friday, where the Hawai’i Police Department and Hawai’i County Fire Department responded to a report of a BB gun injury on Oshiro Road in Mountain View.

After arriving on scene, emergency personnel found that the injury was a gunshot wound.

HPD said Tuesday afternoon that detectives from the Area I Criminal Investigation Section were told that the gunshot sustained by the male was a “self-inflicted wound.”

Foul play has been ruled out in the incident, as it is being classified as a fatal at-home accident.

According to HPD, detectives are working with the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney to determine possible criminal charges stemming from the storage of the firearm.


ETA: clarity
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#9
Guns and teenagers do not mix, IMHO. That aside, I cannot fathom why no one rode with him to the hospital. Your last ride must not be made alone. Man UP, dudes.
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I think this is another prime example of why guns should be so hard to get that nobody bothers. And if you have them and do anything illegal with them it should be an automatic life sentence without parole, enough so that your common low life criminal gives them up because the risk of possessing one is too high. Either that or they should be outright banned. If there was no gun in his home that boy would still be alive today.

Baring that, and yes I recognize that the gun lobby is too strong to believe anything near it is going to happen, Sen. Josh Green’s bill SB 3032 should be strongly supported. As Civil Beat wrote in a recent editorial:

“Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”

The unofficial mantra of Second Amendment enthusiasts, those two sentences, comprising a total of seven words, sum up the abiding argument of the gun lobby: Regulating guns is wrongheaded because only criminals or otherwise irresponsible people use guns improperly, and such people won’t follow a gun law any better than they’d follow any other law.

One could make the same argument, though, about automobiles. Cars don’t kill people. Lousy/inattentive/drunk drivers kill people. And treating gun owners just as we treat car owners is the driving sentiment behind SB 3032, Sen. Josh Green’s bill that would make personal liability insurance mandatory for all gun owners in Hawaii.

Green’s proposal is similar to bills moving forward in New Hampshire, Vermont, New York state and Los Angeles. All are premised on the idea that car owners are routinely required to carry insurance in case their vehicle injures someone.

Why shouldn’t we ask the same of gun owners, given that data released in late 2015 by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that, “For the first time in more than 60 years, firearms and automobiles are killing Americans at an identical rate,” as the Washington Post reported in December?


The complete editorial is at:

http://www.civilbeat.com/2016/02/guns-ow...ar-owners/

And you can read about, and find a link to SB 3032, here:

http://capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv....illtype=SB&billnumber=3032&year=2016
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