EBT dollars at work

[kalakoa]

I asked him to leave a few for me, and he accused me of not having the Aloha spirit.

"I got mine, screw you."

[Mimosa]

For many many years we have planted fruit producing tree's such as soursop and non grafted citrus and butter avo's in the median of Hiwy 11 to Kea'au to help feed whom ever was hungry .For many years people would pick the fruit to sell at the local farmers markets .Now comes the state with federal monies to clear all the tree's we have so diligently and probably illegally planted along this stretch of highway .
We now are planting the butter avo's and maintaining them ourselves along other roadways ( state and county ) to help feed future generations .
After the project is pau on Hwy 11 - we have potted butter avo's in 3 and 5 gallon pots to re plant along with wide leaf Ti for cooking and some dry land kalo for future generations .
We try to plant in public access areas where if a person knows where these tree's are - can help feed many who are hungry with little or no care and up keep .
If every one here in PW did the same exact thing - would have plenty foods including Ulu to help feed for the next generations .
And Aloha Dave do you have a garden where you live now and are you preserving what you grow - so during winters you have more home grown foods instead of relying solely on everything trucked in ?
In addition Aloha Dave - could you please donate some funds to the Food Basket in Hilo .
23 cents will feed a person 1 hot meal or a bag of donated canned goods for a day and it may be a deduction on your taxes .

Mrs.Mimosa

[David M]

Mrs. Mimosa
It has irritated me most of my life all the untold millions of dollars spent planting and caring for non edible plants along highways, parks, and any other public venue across this nation when it would be so easy to plant fruits, nuts, berries, or veggies that could grow year after year. Just has never made sense to me all that is wasted on strictly ornamentals when for same dollars and effort some basic nutrition could be provided. With our climate, we could be at the top of the heap. "Hey kids, this summer we're going to Maine and pick blueberries and maybe some apples come fall. What do you think of going to Hawaii next year and picking your own pineapple and avocado?"
I wouldn't expect any of this stuff to be commercial grade, but what an opportunity.


Ninole Resident
Please visit vacation.ninolehawaii.com

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

We try to plant in public access areas where if a person knows where these tree's are

Last Sunday when I drove down Red Road between Kama'ili Road and the hot pond, whole sections were covered with mangoes that had fallen on the pavement. The trees must be loaded this year.

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky

[kalakoa]

all that is wasted on strictly ornamentals

Liability.

[EightFingers]

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

Hawaii should be able to feed its population on its own.

I'm doing my share.

I have an avocado tree near the road, it's picked clean every year before I can even get one. One year I watched a guy climb up on the cab of his pickup so he didn't miss any. I asked him to leave a few for me, and he accused me of not having the Aloha spirit.

I also have a dozen or so coconut trees in the front yard that are regularly picked clean. Once I noticed a guy harvesting up in the crown and asked if he wouldn't mind trimming some of the dead fronds while he was up there. He said the saw he used only cut coconuts, not fronds.

They're probably all disappointed I don't plant more trees to feed the population here in the islands.

(Both instances took place with people who came into my yard to pick from trees growing on my property, in view of my house. If they had asked I would have said sure, take a few. They never ask.)

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky

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Better keep your homeowners insurance paid up.

Anyone falls picking fruit on your property, they may end up owning it...[]

[AlohaDave]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

Explain how worker safety, insurance, building codes differ and affect the cost significantly from anywhere else.

It's still cheaper to import food which is produced in places that lack these requirements.

the tomato businesses in HPP ... Coffee farms in the correct geographical areas

High-value niche products can still compete, especially when grown by a sole proprietor (or family) which enjoy exemptions from many regulations (no "workers", thus no liability).

Ignore the armchair analysts and grow some food -- see if you can compete with Foodland or KTA. Good luck.

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Uhh bad news!
1 Clearly you have no concept of farming in the world.
Most farms are run by families without outside workers
2. Most of the farmers I know, have full time jobs, in addition to working the land they own.
3. It's not their full source of income and the income provided is used to supplement
4. California has as many regulations and their produce is shipped worldwide, they seem to be able to compete

If coffee is a niche, how do you explain the massive plantations in SA without regulations?

If what you were saying were true about Foodland & KTA there would be NO farmers markets.

I know MANY actual farmers, go back to armchair....

[lavalava]

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

Hawaii should be able to feed its population on its own.

I'm doing my share.

I have an avocado tree near the road, it's picked clean every year before I can even get one. One year I watched a guy climb up on the cab of his pickup so he didn't miss any. I asked him to leave a few for me, and he accused me of not having the Aloha spirit.

I also have a dozen or so coconut trees in the front yard that are regularly picked clean. Once I noticed a guy harvesting up in the crown and asked if he wouldn't mind trimming some of the dead fronds while he was up there. He said the saw he used only cut coconuts, not fronds.

They're probably all disappointed I don't plant more trees to feed the population here in the islands.

(Both instances took place with people who came into my yard to pick from trees growing on my property, in view of my house. If they had asked I would have said sure, take a few. They never ask.)

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky

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You got plenty Aloha man, I would have been filling two pukas...

[alaskyn66]

Nobody cares what the mainland is doing Dave. . Haven't you figured that out yet.

..What would King Kamehameha do..

[AlohaDave]

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Originally posted by alaskyn66

Nobody cares what the mainland is doing Dave. . Haven't you figured that out yet.

..What would King Kamehameha do..

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hah, another self type persona, someone who just cares about themselves

This has nothing to do with the mainland. It has to do with food security and about reliving poverty

I've figured out that the spirit of Aloha is dead in many people and all they care about is themselves.