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#81
On a vaguely related note, I saw a real estate listing on the Hamakua. The house was offered for $650K and it mentioned that assessed value was $179K.

Maybe that area is ripe for reassessment.

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#82
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Originally posted by james weatherford

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Originally posted by opihikao

[quote]Originally posted by shockwave rider

County Charter needs changes, which elected official will spearhead the effort?



The County Charter can be, and has been, changed solely through citizen initiative.

EO! Yes indeed, Sir. Sure wish you'd run for a seat representing Puna. Times are changing. Your dedication over the years to our community is apparent. Not that all of us will always agree, but sound judgement and compromise, combined with knowledge of our aina (the lay of the land, as it were), makes for positive change. (I also think Mr. Tucker should run for office, as you both would be well suited for such a task. Just saying...)

There are so many other "extenuating circumstances" that affect the outlying areas tied to this PMAR, it may take a few more years (or decades, who knows) to figure it out. Thankfully, Tutu Pele's last ho'i towards Pahoa town, and Highway 130 woke some elected officials up. Time to add the PMAR to the entire future general plan for both "Upper" and "Lower" Puna (Can't stand those terms, as in the old days, Puna was Puna, as one.)

Going to read the current County Code, as this discussion has provoked an interesting question (or two) in my mind worthy of contemplation. Mahalo for the discussion.

JMO.
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#83
real estate listing on the Hamakua. ... offered for $650K ... assessed value was $179K.

Why, it's almost as if both numbers were totally made up!

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#84
offered for $650K ... assessed value was $179K.

I'm sure the county will correct their "mistake" once a new owner takes possession of the property.

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#85
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

offered for $650K ... assessed value was $179K.

I'm sure the county will correct their "mistake" once a new owner takes possession of the property.

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky



Keep dreaming.
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#86
Keep dreaming.

Because the new owner won't be someone's cuz.

“There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them.”
-Joseph Brodsky
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#87
This is why it is Ha-Ha-Ha-waii. DOT says no new roads for 20 years, only maintenance until then. Puna shoulder widening off the table for the foreseeable future. There is no quid pro quo, but there is maintain status quo.
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...-roadblock

*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#88
Puna shoulder widening off the table for the foreseeable future.

Then maybe it's time for County to either facilitate "village center" development, or simply stop issuing building permits.

There is no quid pro quo

Seems (to me) a bit "vindictive" for State to tell the residents of one island "no new roads because we didn't get a statewide tax increase" -- in this case, a "statewide" agency doesn't help.

Roads on an island should be funded by, and decided on, by the residents of that island. Oahu gets no benefit from a PMAR, same as we get no benefit when H1 is widened.
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#89
I agree with the no new roads for 20 years, other than finishing Hwy 137 from Kapoho to Richards for the PMAR. There are enough roads, the point is try to keep these island paradises, not make them island criss-cross racetracks. These highways are the old ali'i foot paths. The makaaina'na weren't allowed in the upslope areas except for work and resource gathering. Most of the traffic was canoe. Crook reported an estimated 3,000 to 8,000 canoes came out to greet his ship as it pulled into Kealakekua Bay, with uncountable paddle boards. He estimated the village at that time was over 10,000. Old Paradise is gone but the foot paths remain as highways.

*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#90
There are enough roads

Barely, and for the current population only.

Again: either growth has to stop, or resources must be managed to suit the growth.
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