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Ditto DOEnergy, DOEducation, and a few others. Back to basics, folks, back to the Constitution.
The DOE's primary mission is the testing, development, storage, safeguarding, and management of nuclear weapons. Do you really want the State of Hawaii (and the 49 others) handling that? [:0]
Do you really want Rick Perry in charge of the nukes and nuclear power plants? OMG! My chickens have a higher IQ than Rick Perry!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/po....html?_r=0
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Please keep this discussion rooted in Hawaii and Puna folks.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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The best time to be in Hawaii is the la Nina years like now. With the nice tradewinds. During the El Nino in August 2015 there was a blackout alert on Oahu. The hottest humidest week felt like down south. It was so cloudy and still the alt energy was useless so had to go all baseload with the fossil fuels and H power and everybody blasting the a.c..
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... dismantling of the EPA and restoration, in part of the Constitution. Ditto DOEnergy, DOEducation... Back to basics, folks, back to the Constitution.
NUCLEAR!! Another good choice, IMHO.
Nuclear power as a source of electricity in Hawaii?
I don't think either were in the Constitution, so I guess that's out.
Back to basics would however, allow for the reopening of the whaling village in Lahaina. Then we can buy hurricane lamps and burn us some blubber.
You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
Nuclear power might be doable on Oahu. And if you do away with fossil, what real option do you have (besides a few solar panels for single-family homes). Ans. NONE.
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Originally posted by Lodestone
Only three problems with nuclear power in Hawaii:
1) Commercial nuclear reactors produce around 1000 MW of power. (Smaller reactors are technically feasible, but economically hopeless). The Big Island has no use for anywhere near that much power.
2) Nuclear reactors have strict constraints on geologic conditions for safe operation. The NRC is unlikely to approve plans to build one on an ACTIVE VOLCANO.
3) Considering that building an OBSERVATORY is considered highly controversial in Hawaii... yeah, good luck with that.
I believe the desire to eliminate oil was a statewide goal, as was my suggestion to go nuclear. In reality, fossil is the ONLY real option - period!!
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
... dismantling of the EPA and restoration, in part of the Constitution. Ditto DOEnergy, DOEducation... Back to basics, folks, back to the Constitution.
NUCLEAR!! Another good choice, IMHO.
Nuclear power as a source of electricity in Hawaii?
I don't think either were in the Constitution, so I guess that's out..
Definitely out, as there would be no nuclear power plants in the US without the AEC's work, yet another agency that Mr. Lopaka would find had no constitutional basis for being created.
Outlived its usefulness. Nuclear weps can be managed by DOD quite nicely.
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Originally posted by Lodestone
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Originally posted by Lopaka
Ditto DOEnergy, DOEducation, and a few others. Back to basics, folks, back to the Constitution.
The DOE's primary mission is the testing, development, storage, safeguarding, and management of nuclear weapons. Do you really want the State of Hawaii (and the 49 others) handling that? [:0]
Do you really want Rick Perry in charge of the nukes and nuclear power plants? OMG! My chickens have a higher IQ than Rick Perry!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/po....html?_r=0
Rick Perry was a great Texas Governor as a far cry better than the crop of political goons Hawaii produces - your chickens notwithstanding.
How about the DOD (Dept of Defense)??
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Only three problems with nuclear power in Hawaii:
1) Commercial nuclear reactors produce around 1000 MW of power. (Smaller reactors are technically feasible, but economically hopeless). The Big Island has no use for anywhere near that much power.
2) Nuclear reactors have strict constraints on geologic conditions for safe operation. The NRC is unlikely to approve plans to build one on an ACTIVE VOLCANO.
3) Considering that building an OBSERVATORY is considered highly controversial in Hawaii... yeah, good luck with that.
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1. Ships...Navy has like, a bunch of them...
2. Ships... offshore
3. Ships... offshore
That being said, Hawaii already has a law against nuclear power being provided via ship...
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Rick Perry was a great Texas Governor as a far cry better than the crop of political goons Hawaii produces
The last time a town in Hawaii surprisingly exploded was December 7th, 1941, and that was due to an enemy attack. Hawaii governors have had a pretty good track record in that regard since then.
Rick Perry allowed the small town of West, Texas to blow up on April 17, 2013, due to lax oversight and almost nonexistent safety regulations for fertilizer production and storage facilities. Yes, let's pause for a moment to imagine what he might do while in charge of nuclear power and weapons.
As he himself might say, "Whoops!"
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1. Ships...Navy has like, a bunch of them...
2. Ships... offshore
3. Ships... offshore
That being said, Hawaii already has a law against nuclear power being provided via ship...
I like the offshore ideas, but public support for nuclear power is feeble. The last nuke plant in the USA to come online did so back in 1992. Also, without a functioning spent fuel repository (Yucca Mountain RIP) or even an approved plan for creating one, nuclear power's future is dubious. Four new plants are under construction, but at least that many have been decommissioned due to old age.
Given that we can't even get something as relatively harmless and cheap as geothermal built in Hawaii without considerable heartburn... yeah, good luck with that.
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