New Immigration Policy & Its Impact on Hawaii

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I think that Californian was trying to get his hut built for half of what the minimum he was used to based on his theory that jobs are hard to find, so let's go bargain hunting at a third world bazaar because everybody is hungry here. He may have found somebody for 12 dollars an hour, but he more than likely only got 12 dollars worth of quality work.

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

The Trump administration released new guidelines today outlining procedures for detention and deportation of undocumented residents and visitors. These federal guidelines may affect up to 21,000 people in Hawaii. Over the years I have met a number of foreign nationals in passing, who arrived in Puna legally as visitors, but never left. It's a reasonable assumption that not everyone now living in Puna is a documented citizen. A Trump spokesman said the rules are meant to target those committing criminal offenses, but some in Hawaii think otherwise. Click the link below for U.S. Rep. Colleen Hanabusa's view.

It may be some weeks or months before we start hearing about the effects of this ruling in Puna, but if you know of any immediate consequences to local residents, please let us know.

Hawaii immigration attorney Clare Hanusz said the orders are broad enough to include the deportation of undocumented immigrants who've simply overstayed their visas.

"These people are our neighbors. They're people who run local businesses. Their kids go to our kids schools," Hanusz said. "They're living in extreme fear right now."

The Migration Policy Institute estimates that there are 21,000 illegal immigrants in Hawaii. Nearly two-thirds of them are listed as being from the Philippines or Japan.

"One of the questions is, if someone is stopped for driving with an expired license, or driving without a license, can that person be deported? And the answer very clearly given is yes.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34563...tion-rules

You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.

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Deport them, one and all. Their mere presence here is a crime, and no other infraction is required. They are needed back home.

[glinda]

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Originally posted by mikewj

Should the bracero program, where non citizens, mostly from Mexico, were admitted on a temporary basis to help with crop gathering, be reinstated?

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If it or something like it isn't one has to wonder about the stability of the ag industry. I don't think people reflect on just what all those "illegal" people do or how critical the contributions they make are. And of course one has to wonder who's going to replace them in the workplace when in so many instances they're doing work that Americans don't want. I mean besides Lopaka who seems anxious for one of those jobs.

This will probably be a fiasco. One that seems to play out over and over throughout history when an incompetent leader uses fear to play on our differences and use them against us rather than being all inclusive which I believe is the true underlying nature of what it is that makes America great.

There's a reason we have the Lady of the Harbor. In times past hundreds of thousands, millions, of people were greeted by her as the boats they traveled upon came over the horizon to find her gracing the shore of what to them was the promise land. Now our executive behaves like one of the tyrants that so many of them were fleeing. And just like the proverbial frog in the slowing warming pot of water we are being lulled into accepting one injustice after another. Seemingly into repeating some of our darkest history. Into being our ugliest selves.

On another thread (TMT - Contested Case Hearing Status - Hilo) kalakoa suggests there would be an economic downturn if the TMT isn't built here. I think if there is any ripple it would be a relatively small one compared to a national roundup of all the farm labor across the US and the disruption of our food supply that would cause. As such I believe it is incumbent upon everyone that is concerned about our local economy to speak out against this poorly thought out immigration policy.

[Rob Tucker]

Well this topic off into the national and thus I bring it to its end.

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