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#21
Thanks for the update nnickle. Yes the ignorance and the poverty are two problems. It is a shame that people think cats can survive without care. I had no idea people were avoiding the Human Society, but if they had any education they would know that putting down a cat perhaps is a better solution than having it live off the land, a torturous existence in my opinion, and a shortened life time struggling for survival.

Love the humorous touch Jerry yes those free range chickens filling up on coqui they should be good frying birds no! Oh and this little piggie on the barbie too!

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#22
ADVOCATS has a spray/neuter and release program. I am not sure if they do anything on the East side but they are very active on the West side, they even enlisted some of the resorts into their program too. I have been supporting them for years. In fact, Cathy and I asked our wedding guests to donate money to ADVOCATS instead of giving us gifts. We collected $500!

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#23
Stop the miracle of birth from becoming the tragedy of death. Spay and neuter your pets!


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#24


Polly the parrot didn't look well, and the vet confirmed it. "I'm sorry," he told the owner, I'm afraid your bird doesn't have long to live." "Oh, no," wailed the owner. "Are you sure?" The vet left the room and returned with a big black Labrador, who sniffed the bird from top to bottom, then shook his head. Next the vet brought in a cat. He too sniffed the parrot and sadly shook his head. "Your bird is definitely terminal," said the vet, handing the owner a bill. "Wait--$500! Just to tell me my bird is dying?" The vet shrugged. "If you'd taken my word for it, the bill would only have been $20, but with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan..."


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#25
I hope this post is appropriate, if not you have my permission to delete it. Thank you,
Lucy

I feel there is a need to know who and what about agencies that are in the business of caring or not caring for our pets and strays, especially when we are donating money towards organizations.

Good explanation of HSUS, ASPCA and other alphabet soup!

Responsible Pet Owners Alliance is an animal welfare organization, not "animal rights" and, yes, there is a difference.

Permission granted to crosspost.

May 16, 2006

Only donate to local animal shelters who do hands on work with animals. Local humane societies have no affiliation with Humane Society of the United States. Ask questions! A major tip-off to Animal Rights leanings is use of "overpopulation,"
pet "guardian" instead of pet owner, "non-human animals" instead of just animals, and support for

Mandatory Spay/Neuter and Breeder Permit types of ordinances. Please read the following message closely and cross post freely. Thanks to Wayne Cavanaugh for writing it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A brief guide to America's shelters, who is taking credit for what, and where your donations go.

Wayne Cavanaugh (President of the United Kennel Club)

Did you ever get mail from the "humane society"? Donation solicitations,Christmas cards, free address labels? Was it from the Humane Society of theUnited States (HSUS), the American Humane Association (AHA),
or the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA)? Did you ever wonder who they are and what they do? What about during disaster relief efforts, did you ever wonder where to send your donations?

Don't know the answers to these questions? You are not alone. Even among the most dedicated dog lovers there is huge misunderstanding and confusion when it comes
to our nation's shelters and the SAS - that is, the Shelter Alphabet Soup, that comes with them.


In the late 1990's, a group called the California Coalition of Animal Advocates convened to try to find answers to issues dog-related population issues. Their work included a study to find out who and where the animal shelters were in America. It sounded easy enough until they discovered that a national list of shelters did not exist, and, contrary to popular opinion, there wasn't a "humane society" or any other
type of organization that oversaw all of America's shelters!
So who, what, and where are the nation's shelters? Who are these big fund-raising groups, and how are they related to shelters? Where do they get their money,
and who is running them? To start, the coalition funded a study to create shelter list of every shelter in America. They knew it would always be changing and would never be complete, but they also knew it would be a lot better than what existed, which was nothing. They hired university graduate students to do the only thing that would work - the students called every town, municipality, city, village, township, hamlet and county in America and asked if they had a shelter, what they called it and who ran it. The answers were interesting and the list was compiled. Today, there is still no national organization overseeing or coordinating America's shelters.

Here are some facts that most people do not realize.

The Humane Society of the Untied States (HSUS) does not operate a single animal shelter in America or anywhere else. That's right, not one. Makes you wonder how many people send them money thinking they were the local animal shelter.

The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) does operate a shelter and an animal hospital - they are both in New York City. That's it, a New York City shelter only. It is a highly regarded shelter, but New York clearly isn't the nationwide shelter list some people think of when they think of the ASPCA. To be fair, the ASPCA does humane work all over the nation, but as far as operating shelters, well, no. The American Humane Association (AHA) operates no
shelters, but does have about 300 shelters that are affiliated and agree to maintain AHA standards of care at their shelters.
What about the SPCA? Is there a national organization called the SPCA (society for the prevention of cruelty to animals)? Nope. Sorry. "SPCA" is simply a term, or abbreviation, used for most any animal shelter but it is NOT a nationwide organization. It's a generic for what we say instead of"dog pound", "animal shelter", or "humane society"

Now you can see the confusion! When national groups use words like humane society, or letters such as SPCA in their name, people think they are giving to their local shelter. But they, of course, are not.

So who runs the local shelter in your town? It could be anyone from volunteers, to your local government, to a private party. Many rural areas simply have a person, with a few extra kennel runs, who the town pays to house the strays. In more populated areas where actual dedicated buildings exists, the shelters are funded by any combination of tax dollars, donations, adoptions fees and dog license fees. (It is interesting to note that the shelters house dogs and cats, but since hardly anyone licenses cats, the dog license fees pay the bills for both dogs and cats.)

These shelters are named anything from the "SPCA of Whatever County" to the "Humane Society of Whatever Township", but are not affiliated with either national group, the ASPCA or HSUS. Within a county or state,
the shelters may meet for educational purposes or to share information but not as a member of a national fund raising group that operates and fund shelters.

So what does the ASPCA, HSUS, and AHA do with all of their money if it is not going to your local shelter?
Each has their own agenda. They all advertise, use money to raise money, and draft and lobby for legislation. Some may agree with none, all, or some of what they support. The AHA has the contract to oversee and ensure the safety all animals used while filming a movie. They have done so for years and have done an admirable job. However, they are also opposed to hunting. So are the ASPCA and, obviously, HSUS. Do they help protect animals? Yes, they do. But does
their agenda agree with your individual ideas and philosophy? Hang on, you had better check. Check a lot. Go to their websites. Call them. Dig deeper into their agendas. See what legislation and advertising
campaigns they are spending donated money on.

HSUS for example, in addition to the troubled PAWS legislation, is also spending donations on a new campaign to prevent America's youth from hunting before they are 18 years old. (For those familiar with the PAWS bill, this is typical HSUS - set limits first then adjust them to extinction!) These campaigns and laws are often being funded by well-intended people who think they are giving to their local shelter! But you now know that is not true.

With Hurricane Katrina, watch the big PR money being spent by some of these groups, and other dog organizations, as they exploit the hurricane victims by trying to raise money that goes who knows where. Is that money all going to relief? Let's hope so. We
have heard that good money is starting to get spent in the hurricane ravaged areas. Or is some going to fund anti-hunting and anti- breeding legislation? It almost seems as though where some see despair and horror, others see a PR opportunity, so who knows?

The bottom line is that there are thousands of shelters in America, all of which are individually operated and funded locally. They always need resources and support. Then, there are large groups who raise money by using the goodwill of words like "humane" and "cruelty" in their national name. To add another layer of concern, while your local independent
shelter is not run by HSUS, AHA, or the ASPCA (unless you are in New York City), you really have no idea what the mission of your local shelter is. Your job is to ask.

There are many, many excellent and worthy local shelters that need your donations and will use them directly to help dogs. But before you open your wallet, ask what will be done with your money.

Consider donating food and supplies that can't be as easily used to pay government lobbyists. Ask what they believe in. Then ask yourself what you believe in and where you draw the line. We should and we must help those less fortunate. We must not forget the people and the dogs who need help from the hurricane. We must do so from our hearts, though, and not to take credit or exploit the situation. And we must make sure our efforts are in line with our private individual beliefs.


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#26
For all you pet loverrrrs of the feline persuasion see the Tribune Article titled "The Cats Meow"

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/article/...ures01.txt

The web site was especially unique http://www.madamescathouse.com

Perhaps Madame might be a staunch supporter for the reinstatement of the recently banned Bengals.

Purrrrr HADave

The Tribune link to the article doesn't work but it is listed under features

Edited by - HADave on 05/25/2006 13:44:03
Aloha HADave & Mz P

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#27
Thank you for pointing out the article of the purrrrfect cat's meow house!! Very unique, a cat whisperer, who does kitty massage! What more could a feline desire with all that and treats too!!

Meeeeow HADave thank you too, you gave me an idea to write to the vets in Puna and ask if they would be willing to drop a note to the powers that be! Aloha

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#28
Punatics and partiers, thank you all so much for taking a petition to mail to the Agriculture Department of Hawaii. We are striving to get the domestic Bengal cat returned to the list of accepted breeds. The most popular feline in the USofA currently.

A special thanks to PJ, whose outgoing and generous spirit has given us such hope of success.

Aloha all and hope to be at the next Punatics Party. We would bring our special furry purrballs to the party just to say hello and thank you when this hurdle is overcome! Aloha you all! Huligirl



Edited by - huligirl on 05/28/2006 07:21:33
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#29
So I find out why the problem and now need to figure out what to do about it. See Felix a serval at the Honolulu Zoo google Honolulu Zoo Felix he is beautiful!

http://www.honoluluzoo.org/serval.htm

It appears an impending lawsuit by a Savannah cat owner who wanted to bring a Savannah (Savannah = Serval+domestic cross, hybrid) to Hawaii precipitated a re-interpretation of the no-hybrid statute. The Savannah cat, unlike the domestic Bengal cat, is a new hybrid that is not recognized at any generation as a domestic cat by any registry in the world. The Savannah cat is a hybrid cross between a 30-40 pound Serval and a domestic cat. The resulting hybrid Savannah cat often weighs 30 or more pounds.

See the comparison of domestic Bengals and a Savannah copy and paste into browser, third photo down!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kellnet.com/wagati/images/african02.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.kellnet.com/wagati/african_serval.htm&h=264&w=218&sz=31&tbnid=hcjHYbV27mkalM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=88&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2Bfelis%2Bwagati%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Dactive%26rls%3DIRFA,IRFA:2006-16,IRFA:en%26sa%3DN

It shows two Bengals, like I have, that are full grown, with a 6 month old Savannah in the middle. I love them too but they need to be recognized as a domestic breed before the Savannah should be allowed into Hawaii. This takes time.

My domestic Bengals, weighing 7 and 15 pounds, are a recognized breed in 49 of 50 states. They are spayed they are neutered, they are microchipped and have passed their blood tests. Use to be allowed into Hawaii and now are prohibited. Pretty arbitrary decision by the AG department I believe.

What to do? Thanks for listening, I know in the great scheme of things this is trivial to many, but these are my kids, silly I know but oh so true!~

Aloha nui loa,
Huligirl


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#30
Woops!! LOL

Oh well here are the comparison pictures!

Sorry about that, and now to blow my covers!! LOL


http://www.kellnet.com/wagati/african_serval.htm
go to site and then pick hybrids from the menu on the left, 3rd pic down

Aloha,


Edited by - huligirl on 06/27/2006 08:25:51



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